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"I am NOT an animal"

Many who do not appear to have much knowledge of biology seem indignant when learning that H. sapiens are classified as animals (alternatives being plant and virus). I do not recall ever hearing a Non-Theist object. 1) Is there something about religion that causes this?
arian wrote: You see I am NOT an animal, never was and never in a billion years will I evolve to be one, my family tree all the way back to Adam don't have one ape in it.
2) Why be upset, indignant or in denial about a biological / taxonomic classification?

3) Since humans differ from other animals only in degree (some mental and physical characteristics), what is the objection to recognizing that they are animals?

4) Is anything other than religion (and possibly narcissism) involved?


In the quoted statement someone (whose theological position apparently defies description) claims knowledge of his family tree back to Adam – as though that proves the claimant is not an animal. However, if the hypothetical Adam was human (H. sapiens), he (Adam) classifies as an animal.
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Zzyzx wrote: .
arian wrote: No, wiggling female butts in our (mens) faces is not the greatest threat to humanity,
Whew, glad to hear that threat has been down-graded from what was said earlier
arian wrote: heck in my younger days I paid some good money to see them shake it in my face,
It might be prudent to save that money for something sensible, like tires.
Why, they'll just grind it down at the dealer again, remember I'm a Jewish disciple of Jesus, so open game for atheist Jews and Gentiles,.. lol.
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arian wrote: but the greatest threat to humanity is "The Evolution Religion", which makes man an ape,
With that identified as the greatest threat to humanity, we can be less concerned about atomic warfare, asteroid impact, environmental degradation, resource depletion, etc and focus on the REAL greatest threat -- evolution.
Atomic warfare is business as usual and you know it. Asteroid impact? Isn't that a critical part of Evolution? I mean imagine no asteroids hitting 'earth-rock' for billions of years, the earth would never have heated up to create the sweat needed for the primordial soup! And without the oceans, we wouldn't have had those tectonic plates separate the species (the continents would be all visibly connected by valleys, lol.) And, .. we wouldn't have a moon. No moon, no life.
Environmental degradation? Now I know you are not talking about removing crude oil from our menu!? That's crazy talk.
Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California? It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?

You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse not seeing one species evolving into another, so to keep things evolving, they use any and every deadly mutating chemical they can get their hands on into the air, our soil, our waters, inject it in our children to force evolution by mutation. I just watched a 2 hour News clip of the predicted results of this forced mutation called 'Mad Max'. (I'm stocking up on that silver mouth spray, it works miracles, .. er .. I mean it's Evolutionary man!)
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arian wrote: and I tell you that right there turns me off of seeing a female ape shaking and wiggling their hairy a__, .. their butts in my face.
Has that been a long term issue?
Naaw, .. it's pretty recent. But my kids keep telling me: "Dad, that's not hair on her legs and her back, those are tattoos!"
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arian wrote: This religion degrades not only mans intellect, but their beauty also.
Perhaps the same can be said for any religion
I agree, .. it IS the same with any religion that tries to replace the Creator with ideologies, and idol-god/goddesses.
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arian wrote: I am standing up for human-rights, stop calling us animal apes!
Those who are offended by biological taxonomy might be more comfortable reading creationist websites.
Wait, so it's them Biological Taxonomist who go around calling people apes, and animals? Boy I tell you someone should start putting them in cages or something with the rest of their ape cousins, they sound wacked!

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arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: No, wiggling female butts in our (mens) faces is not the greatest threat to humanity,
Whew, glad to hear that threat has been down-graded from what was said earlier
arian wrote: heck in my younger days I paid some good money to see them shake it in my face,
It might be prudent to save that money for something sensible, like tires.
Why, they'll just grind it down at the dealer again,
A quick learner (or even not so quick) might decide to not return to the (unidentified) dealer.
arian wrote: remember I'm a Jewish disciple of Jesus, so open game for atheist Jews and Gentiles,
Have you claimed several different theological positions as suits debate?
arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: but the greatest threat to humanity is "The Evolution Religion", which makes man an ape,
With that identified as the greatest threat to humanity, we can be less concerned about atomic warfare, asteroid impact, environmental degradation, resource depletion, etc and focus on the REAL greatest threat -- evolution.
Atomic warfare is business as usual and you know it. Asteroid impact? Isn't that a critical part of Evolution? I mean imagine no asteroids hitting 'earth-rock' for billions of years, the earth would never have heated up to create the sweat needed for the primordial soup!
Is the Earth temperature regulated by asteroid impacts? Some people, <ugh> scientists and others, seem to think that energy from the sun and internal Earth processes are involved.
arian wrote: And without the oceans, we wouldn't have had those tectonic plates separate the species (the continents would be all visibly connected by valleys,
Did oceans originate from asteroid impact?
arian wrote: And, .. we wouldn't have a moon. No moon, no life.
Oh, what origin of the moon theory do you promote or defend?
arian wrote: Environmental degradation? Now I know you are not talking about removing crude oil from our menu!? That's crazy talk.
Humans have quite a few impacts upon the environment in addition to the effects of oil extraction.
arian wrote: Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California?
No, I do not focus on California drought problems particularly or exclusively. Quite a few other resources are being depleted.

Regional droughts and floods are features of the atmosphere.
arian wrote: It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?
Interesting conjecture. Is there evidence to support that idea?
arian wrote: You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse not seeing one species evolving into another, so to keep things evolving, they use any and every deadly mutating chemical they can get their hands on into the air, our soil, our waters, inject it in our children to force evolution by mutation. I just watched a 2 hour News clip of the predicted results of this forced mutation called 'Mad Max'. (I'm stocking up on that silver mouth spray, it works miracles, .. er .. I mean it's Evolutionary man!)
Quite a rant.
arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: and I tell you that right there turns me off of seeing a female ape shaking and wiggling their hairy a__, .. their butts in my face.
Has that been a long term issue?
Naaw, .. it's pretty recent. But my kids keep telling me: "Dad, that's not hair on her legs and her back, those are tattoos!"
Interesting that your "kids" know about "buts in [your] face".
arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: This religion degrades not only mans intellect, but their beauty also.
Perhaps the same can be said for any religion
I agree, .. it IS the same with any religion that tries to replace the Creator with ideologies, and idol-god/goddesses.
Does the Judaism that you claim above avoid these pitfalls?
arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: I am standing up for human-rights, stop calling us animal apes!
Those who are offended by biological taxonomy might be more comfortable reading creationist websites.
Wait, so it's them Biological Taxonomist who go around calling people apes, and animals? Boy I tell you someone should start putting them in cages or something with the rest of their ape cousins, they sound wacked!
Yes, biology is the study of life forms. The findings of biologists are often disputed by people who DO NOT study life forms, but make up opinions based on supernatural or superstitious beliefs.
arian wrote: Love you Z.
I enjoy (sometimes) responding to your posts – nothing personal – because doing so displays for anyone interested a contrast in ideas. Readers are free to decide what makes sense and what doesn't.
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WinePusher wrote:
arian wrote:if you believe the 'flesh' is all we are, then acting on instinct would be perfectly normal, but we wouldn't be having this conversation now would we?
Danmark wrote:Arian, this idea that the body ['the flesh'] is separate from our thoughts is old and demonstrably untrue.
Danmark and arian, do you have any evidence to support either of your claims? If you do then please present the articles you've read that have led both of you to your respective conclusions. If neither of you has any evidence, which I suspect is the case otherwise you would've already presented it, then perhaps it would be wise to state beforehand that these are just your opinions. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but people are not entitled to masquerade their opinions as facts when they clearly aren't.
Hello WinePusher.
No what I say about the mind/spirit of man being separate from the brain/body is exactly in line with your article at the bottom (as if I wrote it?)
Sadly, both of you are wrong, Danmark in particular. Danmark states that this idea that the body ['the flesh'] is separate from our thoughts is old and demonstrably untrue. (For those interested, this issue is formally known as dualism between the mind and body). He has provided no evidence for this claim, and this is unfortunate because those of us who have actually read on this issue know that he's wrong. Thusfar, the only thing we know for certain is that there is still no consensus among philosophers, psychologists and cognitive scientists about this issue. There is no definitive answer concerning consciousness and the question concerning dualism between the mind and the body. We do not know the nature of consciousness and whether or not mental activity can exist without a physically functioning brain.

Unlike Danmark and arian, I actually have sources to back up my claim:

Here is a popular article explaining the on going debates surrounding consciousness.

Here is another article explaining some of the latest research in this area.
Sorry everything I said is within these posts on this Debating Forum. Well I do have articles now, the ones you just gave me, but my ideas started when years ago I read about the 'Blue-brain project'. So is it wrong to think on our own even if no one else alive is on that level? How sad, especially if you have to show credentials before you can reveal what you thought and came up with?

The Guardian article you provided is eerily similar to what I thought through!? (which was ridiculed here, .. understandably since this is a 'Religious Forum' after all.)

Anyways, unless a well known University Science Professor with a bunch of degrees dares to go beyond the evolving animal brain (which ain't gona happen since there aint any 'well known' Science professors that could even go there or they wouldn't be 'well known' or 'world renowned' or working in the scientific field if they questioned the fact of Evolution.) unless they make God the Infinite, Eternal Creative Mind/Spirit to be a supernatural-alien/computer/animal like being from a Parallel Universe (or from Hell) that they at CERN and at the LHC opened up themselves and allowed in through a Star-Gate, .. lol. But that will still only reveal a created-creator with a created-mind, not the Infinite Eternal Mind I clearly see and can define.

The only Creator/Mind that man can now expect to find, or the ONLY mind/spirit that they can accept is a 'created one', otherwise it goes against everything they put into these two same but different theories, .. hundreds of years worth.

And the only obvious reason that they do want to capture mans mind/soul is to hopefully escape Gods coming judgment. But of course that would be un-Sci-Fientific of them to admit! What a shame to deny ones self! What tragedy, since it denies the yet unimaginable possibilities that go on throughout eternity.

But life will go on for every living soul one way/place or another. Only the very thing that they hold on to as 'real' will vanish, gona be burnt up, and a New Eternal body will be given to all, only their existence will not be of their choosing like in a CHAPPiE suit, or a fairyland Matrix, or even floating on a disk in space hoping that some advanced alien race will find them and re-animate them again.

That was the whole point in sending those Earth Greeting Disks into space, to see if something in deep space or from the supernatural realm would find it, decipher the message and respond. This would give them some hope in downloading the mind-on-a-disk and sending it off into deep space.

I call it;

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arian wrote:Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California? It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?

You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse


Aren't there a LOT of secret conspiracies going around... And they've been secretive like this for hundreds of years.

But I'm so happy YOU are there to discover all of them.. on the internet. Because we know.. they hide in plain sight.

Chemtrails....Water in California.. and the biggest lie of all.. Evolution.

What other conspiracies are out there... World Bank... lizard people.. what?

Can you make your list of global conspiracies you believe in?

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Blastcat wrote:
arian wrote:Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California? It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?

You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse


Aren't there a LOT of secret conspiracies going around... And they've been secretive like this for hundreds of years.

But I'm so happy YOU are there to discover all of them.. on the internet. Because we know.. they hide in plain sight.

Chemtrails....Water in California.. and the biggest lie of all.. Evolution.

What other conspiracies are out there... World Bank... lizard people.. what?

Can you make your list of global conspiracies you believe in?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -theories/
Encouragingly, Uscinski and Parent found that education makes a difference in reducing conspiratorial thinking: 42 percent of those without a high school diploma are high in conspiratorial predispositions, compared with 23 percent with postgraduate degrees.

Uscinski and Parent note that in laboratory experiments “researchers have found that inducing anxiety or loss of control triggers respondents to see nonexistent patterns and evoke conspiratorial explanations� and that in the real world “there is evidence that disasters (e.g., earthquakes) and other high-stress situations (e.g., job uncertainty) prompt people to concoct, embrace, and repeat conspiracy theories.�

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... t_jfk.html
People low in trust of others are likely to believe that others are colluding against them,� the authors proposed. This sort of distrust, in other words, favors a certain kind of belief. It makes you more susceptible, not less, to claims of conspiracy.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3791630?seq ... b_contents
A survey of 348 residents of southwestern New Jersey showed that most believed that several of a list of 10 conspiracy theories were at least probably true. People who believed in one conspiracy were more likely to also believe in others.
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Zzyzx wrote: It might be prudent to save that money for something sensible, like tires.
Why, they'll just grind it down at the dealer again, [/quote]
A quick learner (or even not so quick) might decide to not return to the (unidentified) dealer.[/quote]

I'm in the system, .. I know, "what system?"
They are watching me .. I know, "Who is watching you?"
and so on and so forth, ...
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: remember I'm a Jewish disciple of Jesus, so open game for atheist Jews and Gentiles,
Have you claimed several different theological positions as suits debate?
Whah?
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: Is the Earth temperature regulated by asteroid impacts? Some people, <ugh> scientists and others, seem to think that energy from the sun and internal Earth processes are involved.
I'm asking; do rocks slowly over billions of years create lava in the middle and heat up, then cool on the outside? Not too cool, the sun then keeps it at that 'just so perfect temperature' where even a baby could survive and thrive!?
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arian wrote: And without the oceans, we wouldn't have had those tectonic plates separate the species (the continents would be all visibly connected by valleys,
Did oceans originate from asteroid impact?
the story goes that asteroids kept coming together which created heat, then threw earth into a spin, and this spinning made it nice and round, and then as the universe got colder and colder and created the salty oceans. Then huge asteroid hit earth and knocked a chunk out of it whish also was thrown into a spin around the earth, but so one side is always facing us because, .. because I don't know, I believe it is how the red-shift gasses work I guess, .. or more scientifically put: "I assume". Then another meteor threw the earth to orbit the sun, and you should know the rest of the magical story.
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arian wrote: And, .. we wouldn't have a moon. No moon, no life.
Oh, what origin of the moon theory do you promote or defend?
Oh, .. there are so many, but they all work since they are fact as the BB-theory is. That's the wonder about the Big-bang and Evolution stories, no matter what assumption our Nobel Prize winning Scientists (you see, I call them scientists) make about the appearance and formation of our planet, sun and moon, they all produce the same result; 'The earth, sun and moon we see before us'! It's truly amazing these guys are I tell you.
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: Environmental degradation? Now I know you are not talking about removing crude oil from our menu!? That's crazy talk.
Humans have quite a few impacts upon the environment in addition to the effects of oil extraction.
Yeah, they drink a lot of water. Especially in California. I remember living there and seeing all them Movie Stars and rich women running for no reason at all (no one was chasing them?? And coming from Detroit, sometimes I would start running with them and keep looking behind me!) Crazy people. Well anyways, I would notice that they all had a bottle of water with them. So assuming like any good scientist, that these joggers (now I know why they ran for no reason, it's called jogging, .. lol) simply drank California dry!
Stop these maniacs from jogging and watch the California lakes fill up again, .. simple.
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arian wrote:
Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California?
No, I do not focus on California drought problems particularly or exclusively. Quite a few other resources are being depleted.
Oh great, .. most of US agriculture comes from there, and you just going to let them fancy-hot-pants women keep jogging till all California dries up? I mean these women are gona drink us to extinction. What other more important resources could there be then water Z? Are you talking about the sun? Because there are NWO companies that keep knocking at my door trying to sell sunshine to me here in Arizona! Can you imagine that? My house, my sun too, and I would have to buy the sunshine from them on monthly payments!?!? It's madness, .. or Mad-Max-madness!
Zzyzx wrote:Regional droughts and floods are features of the atmosphere.
Used to be anyways, now it's used for monetary gain and human control. Californians thought $6 a gallon of gas was much, wait till they have to sell the silicone from their boobs and butts for that bottle a water!?
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arian wrote: It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?
Interesting conjecture. Is there evidence to support that idea?
Well actually yes. California is drying up, right? I am here in Arizona right between California and Texas, .. right?
So I look up into the once deep blue cloudless skies, and every day I see clouds. I mean such thick clouds that it blocks the sun, but no rain. In Arizona if you seen heavy clouds that block the sun, you would most definitely see a flash flood, .. but day after day, .. year after year these clouds just pass right over our heads.
Now I see that there is this V shaped ripple coming from the same spot from the West, which actually moves the clouds in that V faster then the rest of the clouds. So I read about this project on Weather warfare and HAARP, I axed myself, brother they are pushing them clouds away from California right over our heads, .. but where?
Then I hear there news coming in from Oklahoma and Texas about way too much rain, so I'se put my two cents together, and figured it all out. It ain't them women joggers drinking up all that California water, someone is stealing it so they can make some money! Aint I smart? I bet even Uncle Jed be proud of me!
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse not seeing one species evolving into another, so to keep things evolving, they use any and every deadly mutating chemical they can get their hands on into the air, our soil, our waters, inject it in our children to force evolution by mutation. I just watched a 2 hour News clip of the predicted results of this forced mutation called 'Mad Max'. (I'm stocking up on that silver mouth spray, it works miracles, .. er .. I mean it's Evolutionary man!)
Quite a rant.
Figured it out all by myself too.
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arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: and I tell you that right there turns me off of seeing a female ape shaking and wiggling their hairy a__, .. their butts in my face.
Has that been a long term issue?
Naaw, .. it's pretty recent. But my kids keep telling me: "Dad, that's not hair on her legs and her back, those are tattoos!"
Interesting that your "kids" know about "buts in [your] face".
I wanted a closer look, and with my sight going bad and all, .. well, .. I kind of got too close I guess.
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arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: This religion degrades not only mans intellect, but their beauty also.
Perhaps the same can be said for any religion
I agree, .. it IS the same with any religion that tries to replace the Creator with ideologies, and idol-god/goddesses.
Does the Judaism that you claim above avoid these pitfalls?
I suppose, .. maybe because most of their women shave now!? I don't know?
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arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote:
arian wrote: I am standing up for human-rights, stop calling us animal apes!
Those who are offended by biological taxonomy might be more comfortable reading creationist websites.
Wait, so it's them Biological Taxonomist who go around calling people apes, and animals? Boy I tell you someone should start putting them in cages or something with the rest of their ape cousins, they sound wacked!
Yes, biology is the study of life forms. The findings of biologists are often disputed by people who DO NOT study life forms, but make up opinions based on supernatural or superstitious beliefs.
I was born a 'lifeform', I lived amongst lifeforms, I eat lifeforms, and as in the 'in-my-face' stories you can see that I closely studied lifeforms. So I'm all against them religions that make up supernatural and superstitious stories on lifeforms. As you can see I am a scientist who spend a lot of money in my younger days studying lifeforms, and not them dried thousand year old bones either.
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arian wrote: Love you Z.
I enjoy (sometimes) responding to your posts – nothing personal – because doing so displays for anyone interested a contrast in ideas. Readers are free to decide what makes sense and what doesn't.
Well with all the religious influences going around, sometimes it's hard to discern right from wrong? So many different ideas going around!

In a way, you and I could make a good Laurel and Hardy team, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis., .. I don't know, wait, maybe Abbot and Costello?? .. but I aint playing no animal, cause I aint no animal, .. even though I was raised like one.

Take care buddy, long live and prosper.
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arian wrote: In a way, you and I could make a good Laurel and Hardy team, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis., .. I don't know, wait, maybe Abbot and Costello??
It does seem as though you are presenting comedy rather than attempting to debate honorably. Much of what you say is humorous or ludicrous or sad, depending on one's viewpoint.
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Blastcat wrote:
arian wrote:Resource depletion? Oh you mean like the water shortage in California? It's not depleted, they drove it back East by chem-trails and pushed it with HAARP, it's right there in Texas, every last drop of it, .. or haven't you heard?

You see they been looking for proof for evolution since Darwin created the religion, and with todays technology and cameras everywhere there is no excuse


Aren't there a LOT of secret conspiracies going around... And they've been secretive like this for hundreds of years.
Hello Balstcat.
Oh yes, only this been going around a lot longer than that. The first recorded conspiracy actually took place before time began, or before we humans counted time (God counts time very differently from us, which we will eventually go back to).

The Fall of Lucifer

Isaiah 14:12
“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.


The conspiracy here was that Lucifer, this most adorned Angel in Heaven was so high on himself (something like the Nazi/Zionists are today) that he wanted to be known as God, "Like the Most High". So he devised a conspiracy to deceive all the Angels including man to serve him instead of our Creator, .. and these take over conspiracies have been going on ever since.
Brother against brother (Cain & Abel) Emperor against Emperor, nation against nation, .. country against country. One who want's to move up in rank conspires to kill the King, .. others the President's of some country, all this for one thing, to be like the Most High, or to be the Most High in the kingdom, or country, .. and now it's the World (since Lucifer has been kicked out of Heaven.)

Blastcat wrote:But I'm so happy YOU are there to discover all of them.. on the internet. Because we know.. they hide in plain sight.


Well thank you, but without those "They Live" contacts (Gods Holy Spirit-eyes) and many wonderful caring people in the world, I would never have discovered them, and of course it's by far 'all', .. lol. But I do believe I'm getting down to the nitty-gritty of at least the Most Important ones, the ones that not only effect our lives here on earth, but these babies (little bastards given birth by religions) will have a lasting effect on most peoples eternal life.

Internet, if you mean the News and other information off the internet, yes. But we have to be really careful because Satan got wise, so since this last conspiracy is the 'Big One Elizabeth' (remember Red Fox saying that always in Sanford and Son?) well anyways this is truly the biggest and the most perfectly planned conspiracy of all time, and of all before time like I said, which started in Heaven.
Yes, they do hide in plain sight, the Master Conspiracy hidden under the revelations of conspiracies. Here let me give you an example:
I'm sure practically everyone heard about Alex Jones by now, right? Now here is a guy that goes around the WORLD right in front of Military Police facing seemingly all kinds of dangers all in name of 'Freedom of speech, .. or freedom from suppression, and his mouth seems never to stop proclaiming any and all injustice wherever they pop up, he's on TV, on radio, all over the internet, he has his special groups and sub groups that support InfoWars, right?

But ask yourself, where is the great Alex Jones Armies? I mean this guys has access to more publicity then any presidential election I have ever seen, and this been going on non-stop for many years now. I mean if a little puppy doing something cute can go viral, then Mr. Jones is the viral of viral's!

I mean the most loved President like John F. Kennedy only mentioned about these people and how they control the world and he was shot sacrificial style and the information of his execution was hid for what, 40 years? Just One Public Speech, and Mr. Jones rambles on all the time.

Why he don't get his head blown off, and why the military police pass him up? (I'm sure they don't make it too obvious), it's because with all that talk, he is careful to say 'nothing'. He spreads exactly what They want him to spread, which is fear, confusion, superficial information that's been out there for a while, and that's it.

He does a thousand times more in hiding the real truth by revealing certain aspects of it then the Presidents do trying to hide those facts. So yes, hidden in plain sight.

Blastcat wrote:Chemtrails....Water in California.. and the biggest lie of all.. Evolution.


Yes, as I keep explaining. But here is the thing, Californian farmers are digging for water, so these companies go and take the money from rich Farmers, AND cause a far greater harm to the environment. I mean the plan to destroy the world is going not only as planned, but those of us who are planned for extermination are actually doing most of the work.
Like mothers who've been told their children have cancer, They actually show the mothers to inject their own child with the very poisons that will kill them!

How about the next child, or now the mother, or father, or cousin, yep, .. 'This special cancer is hereditary' so instead of questioning all these cancer deaths that are wiping out entire families, they just say: "Yep, ... we knew it! I just knew I was going to be next!"
Frikin' unbelievable? No one seems to give it even a second thought that maybe they have been brain washed into thinking 'they were next'? I mean that's all you see, is commercials after commercials, big adds on the highways, "Cancer Awareness! Don't forget you may already have cancer and don't even know it? Go for that check up, it's been weeks, it may have spread all over by now!"

"But I feel fine, strong, healthy!"
Cancer Doctors: 'Yep, .. that be the sign! Millions are dying who said the very same thing!"

Blastcat wrote:What other conspiracies are out there... World Bank... lizard people.. what?


Here is one: Billions of people, but one nation in particular are walking Zombies. What I mean is that their own souls are laying in their bodies comatose, dead and they are being lead strictly by spirits of the fallen angels.

These spirits can mimic the "Fruits of Gods Holy Spirit" that supposed to be in us, which is 'love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness gentleness and self control' to such extent that unless you had the Spirit of God within you and as you looked into their eyes and seen the darkness of that demonic spirit, you would follow these people to your death. And yes, millions and even billions of people do exactly that.

Example:
The wife is visiting her husband in the post-op room after a small and successful surgery, the demon-spirit lead nurse would come in with the most kind and reassuring smile, take a syringe and as the husband and wife are talking all happy, she injects into the husbands IV a deadly dose of poison, and as the husband is going into convulsions, she turns to the wife and says reassuringly: "Oh it's nothing really, its just a dose of vitamins the doctor ordered. Some people get a little tiny reaction from it some times?"

After the autopsy, the wife is told that "he was allergic to red dye in the vitamins, which he, nor she did NOT mention on his pre-op papers they filled out (or a hundred other perfect but deadly excuses)

From here on the entire family reports on all medical papers that they are allergic to red dye! What they don't know is that now they just became allergic to yellow dye, .. LOL.
Yep, .. who would of known that such menial substance as red dye could kill strong and healthy daddy? Especially that his favorite cake was always red, like red velvet, or red Cool-aid, or, .. oh you got the message I hope?

Blastcat wrote:Can you make your list of global conspiracies you believe in?


Only this, you will be killed, Satan and his angels control most of the people on earth. People are lead on a suicide mission JUST LIKE Marshal Applewhite and his followers. People, should I say we have brought this on ourselves by praying to deities, to demons and divining for them for thousands of years, denying our Creator, instead worshiping the creature.

If you cannot accept what I tell you, but deep inside you are screaming out for help, pray. Jesus is here and He will never leave you. I know the demons will fight you, you cannot win, they are way too powerful and been in you since birth. They know you better than you know yourself, but like I said, pray, .. give yourself to the One who can help and watch these demons run!
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root.

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arian wrote: In a way, you and I could make a good Laurel and Hardy team, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis., .. I don't know, wait, maybe Abbot and Costello??
It does seem as though you are presenting comedy rather than attempting to debate honorably. Much of what you say is humorous or ludicrous or sad, depending on one's viewpoint.
Humorous or ludicrous or sad, .. all human traits. Another scientific proof I am not an animal.
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arian wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: .
arian wrote: In a way, you and I could make a good Laurel and Hardy team, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis., .. I don't know, wait, maybe Abbot and Costello??
It does seem as though you are presenting comedy rather than attempting to debate honorably. Much of what you say is humorous or ludicrous or sad, depending on one's viewpoint.
Humorous or ludicrous or sad, .. all human traits. Another scientific proof I am not an animal.
Perhaps if it comes from a children's site?

Well, I wouldn’t say all of you dress up! But seriously, are you asking if humans are animals? If so, the answer is yes-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s!!!

Scientists describe virtually everything that is alive as animal or plant. So, if you’re not a plant then you are an animal! In fact, you are a specific kind of animal called a mammal. Know what you all have in common? Your mothers have breast milk that can feed young; you have hair or fur; and you are born live instead of inside an egg or case! In fact, human mammals are born not only alive — but kicking and screaming!
http://discoverykids.com/articles/are-h ... d-animals/
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