Help: How do I know that your God is the one, true God?

[Kir Komrik]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

[AdHoc]

... the likelihood of informational influence, at least in my case, would be approaching zero ...

Not sure I'm following what you mean? The question is framed as given this information, which is more likely.

I'm starting to feel as dumb as I probably sound... you're saying after I've read through all the info then what is the likelihood of either of the two options?

I think that would be a question better posed to a nonbeliever since they wouldn't have a bias one way or the other.

[Kir Komrik]

... the likelihood of informational influence, at least in my case, would be approaching zero ...

Not sure I'm following what you mean? The question is framed as given this information, which is more likely.

I'm starting to feel as dumb as I probably sound... you're saying after I've read through all the info then what is the likelihood of either of the two options?

I think that would be a question better posed to a nonbeliever since they wouldn't have a bias one way or the other.

Yes, it is a hypothetical, so it is based only on the information given and a choice between two given things. Whether or not one can answer I think depends. I've known many adherents who can answer that pretty objectively, especially when the answer is so obvious.

[Zetesis Apistia]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

The true God can only be confirmed through experience. All other beliefs are speculative.

[Kir Komrik]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

The true God can only be confirmed through experience. All other beliefs are speculative.

Hey Zetesis Apistia,
Okay, so, if it can only be answered through experience what experience could I have whereby I would know which god is The One, True God?

Just so everyone knows, this conversation is also occurring over here called Conversation with a Deconverter (which is a civil and open forum)
I think it might be useful for some people here to come up with challenges to my approach used here or to just be able to answer these questions better.

[dbohm]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

The true God can only be confirmed through experience. All other beliefs are speculative.

Hey Zetesis Apistia,
Okay, so, if it can only be answered through experience what experience could I have whereby I would know which god is The One, True God?

Just so everyone knows, this conversation is also occurring over here called Conversation with a Deconverter (which is a civil and open forum)
I think it might be useful for some people here to come up with challenges to my approach used here or to just be able to answer these questions better.

Kir

I have only popped in and out of your thread- it is very long:). I do admire your zeal and persistence. I hold that neither theists or atheists have undeniable unquestionable proof for their claim. The safest intellectual position is most definitely agnosticism.

Just wondering if you've ever considered this - your lens may be clouded not because of lack of intellect but moral corruption - and I mean this in the kindest way. This kind of evidence though is found not in books and argument but is necessarily experiential and individual.

[Kir Komrik]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

The true God can only be confirmed through experience. All other beliefs are speculative.

Hey Zetesis Apistia,
Okay, so, if it can only be answered through experience what experience could I have whereby I would know which god is The One, True God?

Just so everyone knows, this conversation is also occurring over here called Conversation with a Deconverter (which is a civil and open forum)
I think it might be useful for some people here to come up with challenges to my approach used here or to just be able to answer these questions better.

Kir

I have only popped in and out of your thread- it is very long:). I do admire your zeal and persistence. I hold that neither theists or atheists have undeniable unquestionable proof for their claim. The safest intellectual position is most definitely agnosticism.

Just wondering if you've ever considered this - your lens may be clouded not because of lack of intellect but moral corruption - and I mean this in the kindest way. This kind of evidence though is found not in books and argument but is necessarily experiential and individual.

But for me it really isn't a question of intellect. I just want to know how I would know which god is The One, True God? I should think one should be able to "know" this experientially and individually and that is why I've framed the question as how would I know.

Just wondering if you've ever considered this - your lens may be clouded not because of lack of intellect but moral corruption - and I mean this in the kindest way. This kind of evidence though is found not in books and argument but is necessarily experiential and individual.

Can you explain what you mean by "moral corruption"?

[Kir Komrik]

For anyone interested I'm going to resume my questions here shortly

[TheTruth101]

I will answer this is a way a mainstream Christian accepts the formula of divinity found within the teachings of Jesus Christ.

First, you should note that although there are many other religions you infact can be blessed from, you have to include the fact that none of the charismatic leaders of those riligious principals have died in your name.

Second, you have to asses the situation as to how deep the religious views go within its doctrine, and as you do your research, you will come to a conclusion that the Bible is still under examinations from people all over the world that hold doctrinal degrees and are quite capable of doing hard pressed research.

Three, you have to know that without a given subject from a diety in representation of its deity, us as human beings cannot comprehed God. Therefore, this goes as far as how much "depth" there is to know to a doctrine.

Four, once one has mastered the doctrine of religious subject, one's journey to knowledge ends. If the journey ends, it's simply just not fun.

Five, with the amount of information that is within the Bible, you wil find that many of the scriptures can be expressed and solved in variety of ways given the situation and the life the person is undertaking.


Six, you will find that Christians are the only ones that are gifted with a "Tongue". The tongue is in reference to a spiritual blessing because when one speaks it for the first time, one is under heavy hypnotism through God in midst of praying. Many cry while in recievment of the tongue. It is a language that only the soul of your body knows, it is a connection between your soul and God. Hence, you will be at a blank state when speaking in togue. This is the biggest spiritual evidence that Christianity speaks a higher talks with God.


Seven, one of the reason within my set of beliefs that this religion is the true religions is due to several reasons. One being the Bible has the most depth out of all religious literature done today. Two, Jesus performed miracles that were not given to humans, hence creation. Meaning bringing one from the dead back to life. Three, and not at the least, he died in my name. He had my back, so I'm going to have his for eternity.


Eight, the main formula of the christianity doctrine consists of accepting Jesus Christ, who came in flesh from God, who died for your name and your sins, and have been resuurected and sits one with God currently. If you belive that he was real, and at the time of his death and the reasoning of his death was solely under the impression that he indeed died for the beggining and the end of mankind's earthly immoral behaviors, then you can infact get yourself baptized at a local church and start attending as a christian.

Its simple as that.

[Danmark]

I will answer this is a way a mainstream Christian accepts the formula of divinity found within the teachings of Jesus Christ.

First, you should note that although there are many other religions you infact can be blessed from, you have to include the fact that none of the charismatic leaders of those riligious principals have died in your name.

Second, you have to asses the situation as to how deep the religious views go within its doctrine, and as you do your research, you will come to a conclusion that the Bible is still under examinations from people all over the world that hold doctrinal degrees and are quite capable of doing hard pressed research.

Three, you have to know that without a given subject from a diety in representation of its deity, us as human beings cannot comprehed God. Therefore, this goes as far as how much "depth" there is to know to a doctrine.

Four, once one has mastered the doctrine of religious subject, one's journey to knowledge ends. If the journey ends, it's simply just not fun.

Five, with the amount of information that is within the Bible, you wil find that many of the scriptures can be expressed and solved in variety of ways given the situation and the life the person is undertaking.

Six, the main formula of the christianity doctrine consists of accepting Jesus Christ, who came in flesh from God, who died for your name and your sins, and have been resuurected and sits one with God currently. If you belive that he was real, and at the time of his death and the reasoning of his death was solely under the impression that he will dying for the beggining and the end of mankind's earthly immoral behaviors, then you can infact get yourself baptized at a local church and start attending as a christian.

Its simple as that.

That's it? 'Simple as that?' That's what I was afraid of. As I wrote on another topic [and having no one better to quote than myself ] . . .
In my youth I had a fear that when we died we all ended up in the same place, and that place was like an eternal church service. If you were a good Christian it was 'heaven.' I had no doubt that it would be . . . uh . . . well not heaven for me.

Maybe the Mormons have a good idea. If they reach the highest level of their heaven they become like gods and get their own planet. Then they get to have fun building something there. 'Course, that is only entertaining for the first several billion years, then it gets old. Trust me. BTDT.

The problem is when you know everything, I mean EVERYTHING, then you know what is going to happen. There's no mystery. That's prob'ly why god quit interacting with us. Every day, same old same old. The worst sin is not being original. I'm telling you, God is fed up to HERE with repetition. Trust me on this, invent a brand new sin and God will love you for it. Just be sure and ask forgiveness afterward.

Eternity is overrated.

[JoeyKnothead]

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The true God can only be confirmed through experience. All other beliefs are speculative.

And don't it beat all, claims of gods violate international treaties on the humane treatment of speculometers.