What is the whole point of Christianity anyways?

[otseng]

What is the whole point of being a Christian?

Is it just to escape hell?
It is to just "believe in Jesus"?
Is it to enter heaven?
Is it just to have something to do on Sunday mornings?
Or is it something else?

[Curious]

What is the whole point of being a Christian?

So I sorta thought that the whole point of being a Christian is following and loving God

I would have thought that the whole point of Christianity is to tell us to love one another.

[scorpia]

...........Which is part of following God.

[Curious]

...........Which is part of following God.

Agreed, but many religions seem to follow and profess to love God while most definitely not loving one another.
"Love the lord your God above all others and love your brother as your soul" was the message. I believe it was the second part that was most in need of saying though at that particular time.

[rapture101]

Scorpia,
I agree. Its all about God and being able to have a chance to please Him after our selfish, sinful way.
keep it up.God loves and hes proud of you for standing up for him!!

In ChRiSt LoVe
aShLeY

[rapture101]

Curious,
your right.
The word says ,"he who has ears let him hear'.
We as followers of Christ should tell people thats apart of it.
I applaud you on your efforts.

Scopria,
I assumed you were a follower of Christ if your not im sorry for assuming things.

In ChRiSt LoVe
aShLeY

[De Maria]

As G.K Chesterton said "All religions are the same, especially buddhism"

A good Catholic like GK Chesterton said that? I have to see it to believe it. Do you have a reference?

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It is simply illogical that something sprang from nothing.

Except, of course, your god

No, My God, Yahweh always existed.

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Nothing from nothing gives nothing, no matter how long one waits.

No-thing, (as opposed to Nothing", is created of destroyed, it just changes in form.

I don't see the relevance to your point. However, I do have a question. Where is your proof? How do you know that no-thing is created or destroyed, it just changes form? It seems to be only your opinion based upon the theory of relativity.

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Nothing (as opposed to no-thing) cannot exist. If Nothing exists it is no longer Nothing

I was going to make that point. Great minds think alike. Can we agree then that if nothing can not exist then something always existed, be it God or the Universe?

If so, we can move on to the next question.

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So to say something comes from Nothing is illogical.

Is you god outside logic, or subject to logic?

My God is the Creator of all, He is Wisdom itself. He is neither outside of logic nor subject to it but transcends it.

Now, since you say that the Universe always existed, below, I'll ask you the same question, "Is the universe outside of logic or subject to it?"

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Therefore, it makes more sense to me that God existed and He is the source of all that surrounds us.

Classic 'god of the gaps'. It can't be explained, ergo, 'goddidit'

I cannot accept that as a reason to accept a supernatural being.

I understand. However, there is much more. I can look at a simple thing like an ant or a leaf and see that they aren't simple at all. They are wonderfully and fearfully made. A great intelligence had to make them. They couldn't have happened by accident.

Observation of these simple yet wonderful things leads me to the knowledge that God exists.

On the other hand, the same things that I can't explain, you can't explain either. So now, if we can compare what you believe and why and compare to what I believe and why, we can make an intelligent choice between the two.

The gap is getting smaller

There was never a gap between faith and true science.

- the RCC once decried evolution as heresy, it is now accepted.

Any theory which leaves God out of the picture is a heresy. Evolution as it was taught without making reference to God, juxtaposed in opposition to the bible has always been such.

However, the Catholic Church has never opposed the idea that God created the universe in a gradual progression. In fact, this gradual progression is obvious in Scripture.

You god, however, does not stop at the gaps...he is endowed with a whole lot more.

That is true. Yahweh means, "He Who is". Therefore, God is everything. It is He in whom we live, move and have our being.

Which makes more sense to you? Why?

Universal laws like the one quoted above. Why? Because they are observable.

Good answer, I'll not contradict it. I'll only add my own reason for believing in God.

Universal laws are to me an indication of an intelligence at work. Something or someone made these laws and put them in place. They didn't spring out of nowhere by themselves and the universe didn't make them since the universe isn't intelligent.

Sincerely,

De Maria

[De Maria]

God is the ever present being. Without beginning and without end. The only absolutely necessary being because everything else comes from Him.

Is your god 'something'?

Yes.

Something cannot come from nothing (remember?).

Yes, I remember.

Or is your god 'Nothing'.

We agreed that nothing can't exist in the previous message. Therefore, something always existed.

I claim that the universe is ever present, has been and always will be. It's present form may have started with a 'big bang', and may end with a wimper.

Very good. How do you account for the observable universal laws, for the changes in the universe, for the existence of intelligence in the design of the universe.

Did the universe design itself?

There is as much evidence of that as there is of your god.

To the untrained mind, there is more evidence for the existence of the universe than there is for the invisible God. However, to the trained mind, the visible evidence guides one to the knowledge of the invisible God.

We agree, I believe, that Something always existed, whether it be your universe or my God.

If your universe always existed and my God doesn't exist, how do you account for the intelligent design of the Universe?

Or can we adjust our agreement to say, "we agree that something of vast intelligence and power always existed?"

Sincerely,

De Maria