On Proselytizing

[JoeyKnothead]

From the article here:
English Al Jazeera - Probe Call in Afghan 'Convert' Row

Some excerpts; my bolding:

..."The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."...

...Under the US military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith...

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties ... everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely - the death penalty [is imposed]...

...It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."...

"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise, but you can give gifts".

I see this as an effort to convert folks in contravention to military orders (General Order 1) as well as a potential problem for those who may receive these Bibles (potential death penalty).

Question for debate:

Is proselytizing more important than military codes, and the potential death penalty for those one seeks to convert?

[Mere_Christian]

From the article here:
English Al Jazeera - Probe Call in Afghan 'Convert' Row

Some excerpts; my bolding:

..."The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."...

...Under the US military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith...

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties ... everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely - the death penalty [is imposed]...

...It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."...

"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise, but you can give gifts".

I see this as an effort to convert folks in contravention to military orders (General Order 1) as well as a potential problem for those who may receive these Bibles (potential death penalty).

Question for debate:

Is proselytizing more important than military codes, and the potential death penalty for those one seeks to convert?

Why aren't you concerned about religionists (Muslims) that KILL those that do not follow their religion?

I see a contradiction here.

What's your point? Anti-Christian treatise or what?

[Mere_Christian]

By the way, how do you think Al Jezeera and Jihadists (as if there's a difference huh) will treat Gay Activists once the Democrats pass openly homosexuals to serve openly?

Is this thread about following the Military Code as it is written?

[upallnite]

From the article here:
English Al Jazeera - Probe Call in Afghan 'Convert' Row

Some excerpts; my bolding:

..."The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."...

...Under the US military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith...

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties ... everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely - the death penalty [is imposed]...

...It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."...

"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise, but you can give gifts".

I see this as an effort to convert folks in contravention to military orders (General Order 1) as well as a potential problem for those who may receive these Bibles (potential death penalty).

Question for debate:

Is proselytizing more important than military codes, and the potential death penalty for those one seeks to convert?

Joey,
These are the type of people that do not even respect their fellow Marines much less a heathen from another country.

But it does look like Mere feels compeled to defend them.

[Mere_Christian]

From the article here:
English Al Jazeera - Probe Call in Afghan 'Convert' Row

Some excerpts; my bolding:

..."The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."...

...Under the US military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith...

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties ... everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely - the death penalty [is imposed]...

...It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."...

"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise, but you can give gifts".

I see this as an effort to convert folks in contravention to military orders (General Order 1) as well as a potential problem for those who may receive these Bibles (potential death penalty).

Question for debate:

Is proselytizing more important than military codes, and the potential death penalty for those one seeks to convert?

Joey,
These are the type of people that do not even respect their fellow Marines much less a heathen from another country.

But it does look like Mere feels compeled to defend them.

I do not defend Jihadists. I do not ignore their atrocities while jumping on some Christians for spreading Christianity. How many Universities and Hospitals has Jihadism built?

But spreading the Gospel should have consequences. Kick out the Marines as a form of martyr . . . - of course one that does not kill innocent people - and allow them to live their lives free from haiving to die for Atheist-Americans.

I'm cool with that.

Fill our military with Gay Guys and Skeptics.

Yeah, I'm cool with that.

I and my friends and children will be fine out here in the civilian world where free speech is not a hate crime or an offense one WILL be beheaded for. I mean, even secular derived hate crimes legislation doesn't yet call for capital punishment for proselytizing and preaching the Gospel correctly huh?

[Solon]

By the way, how do you think Al Jezeera and Jihadists (as if there's a difference huh)

Okay, why do you think Al-Jazeera are jihadists? Is it a presumption that all people of Arab descent are jihadists? Is it A presumption that all muslims are jihadists? Is there something specific to Al-Jazeera that leads you to believe that this specific organization has called for or is engaged in a jihad?

[Mere_Christian]

From the article here:
English Al Jazeera - Probe Call in Afghan 'Convert' Row

Some excerpts; my bolding:

..."The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."...

...Under the US military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith...

"This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties ... everyone knows people are very conservative here, very faithful to Islam. They will never accept any other religion.

"Someone who leaves Islam is sentenced very severely - the death penalty [is imposed]...

...It is not clear that the Bibles were distributed to Afghans, but Hughes said that none of the people he recorded in a series of sermons and Bible study classes appeared to able to speak Pashto or Dari.

Hughes said: "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people and I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it … documenting it would be important."...

"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise, but you can give gifts".

I see this as an effort to convert folks in contravention to military orders (General Order 1) as well as a potential problem for those who may receive these Bibles (potential death penalty).

Question for debate:

Is proselytizing more important than military codes, and the potential death penalty for those one seeks to convert?

Joey,
These are the type of people that do not even respect their fellow Marines much less a heathen from another country.

But it does look like Mere feels compeled to defend them.

My father was a highy decorated Marine, a Catholic, and lived his respect for his fellow Marines.

Your highly insulting point of view has no merit other than your personal views showing for what they are.

[Mere_Christian]

By the way, how do you think Al Jezeera and Jihadists (as if there's a difference huh)

Okay, why do you think Al-Jazeera are jihadists? Is it a presumption that all people of Arab descent are jihadists? Is it A presumption that all muslims are jihadists? Is there something specific to Al-Jazeera that leads you to believe that this specific organization has called for or is engaged in a jihad?

Their positive view of Islam gives me cause to believe that the spread of islam is the goal of Al Jezeera. Jihadism my friend. Pure and simple.

Are you presenting that "Al Jezeera" is anything other than an Islam spreading tool?

[kayky]

I must ask you, mere christian, how do you reconcile your claim to be a Christian with your obvious hatred for certain groups of people?

[Mere_Christian]

By the way, how do you think Al Jezeera and Jihadists (as if there's a difference huh)

Okay, why do you think Al-Jazeera are jihadists? Is it a presumption that all people of Arab descent are jihadists? Is it A presumption that all muslims are jihadists? Is there something specific to Al-Jazeera that leads you to believe that this specific organization has called for or is engaged in a jihad?

Jihad is a part of Muslim life.

Ask them. Look it up.

They do not hide their religious goals, doctrine and dogma anymore. The beauty of the internet.

www.bookoflights.org.

Are you OK with Islam holding to the implementation that anyone that leaves Islam should be imprisoned or killed?

What about your possible future Atheist Arab brothers?

A little consistency would be appreciated.