Is God proud of His work?
You should know that I do not ever expect God to return at some end time because I see His judgment at the beginning of our birth in Genesis as the only judgment that he need’s render.
Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
This very good included all that is, including sin, evil and the woes that were to afflict us, without which we could not develop our moral sense.
To have Him return, red faced, to fix a perfect world is beyond my definition of God. He gets things right the first time, every time.
I believe that when we left the garden we did so with God being proud of His perfect works and not ashamed that He had started us off on the wrong foot, so to speak, from the beginning of our journey.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
I know that many think of Genesis as the fall of man. This is false.
Man came out of Genesis only after the development of the moral sense that comes from the knowledge of good and evil.
God wanted man to have a moral sense and insured that this would happen by making sure that the talking snake/Satan was there to draw Eve out of any lethargy or laziness of mind and would be lead in the right direction.
I take the advice of the Pope and read the Bible allegorically and see Genesis as a right of passage for all humans from a state of innocence in the home/garden to a search for moral values in the greater society/talking snake.
It is this same society, with it’s differing values that hone our moral sense. It also draws us to sin. As God wants.
Why does God want us to sin?
2 Peter 3:9 KJ
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
New Jerusalem
9 The Lord is not being slow in carrying out his promises, as some people think he is; rather is he being patient with you, wanting nobody to be lost and everybody to be brought to repentance.
If we must all come to repentance then clearly we must all sin.
God makes this easy by creating us all with a sinning nature.
It is God’s will that all repent and none be lost and it must be so, if God’s will is supreme.
To think otherwise is to think that God’s will can be thwarted.
If it is then it is not God’s will at all.
So to those who await a second or third judgment from God, forget that silly notion.
He told us it was a good beginning and from good beginnings come good endings.
We are all to be saved which ends the notion of a hell. If you think about hell for just a moment, it is clear from a moral standpoint, that God would not ever invent or create such a place. It would be admitting that He has failed in saving all of us. This is against His will and must be a false interpretation of scripture.
Do you think that God is proud of His creations, or, do you think He will return in shame to -fix- His perfect works?
Regards
DL
Is God proud of His work?
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this post makes some sweeping statements. God said it was Good. I said my Toyota was good. ANd then when it got rear ended it needed to go to a panel beater. How does saying a thing is good mean it no longer needs work.
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God may have felt humble that day.Faith Leads to Knowledge wrote:this post makes some sweeping statements. God said it was Good. I said my Toyota was good. ANd then when it got rear ended it needed to go to a panel beater. How does saying a thing is good mean it no longer needs work.
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
If both His judgments and works are perfect then He could have said good and perfect.
If all was perfect or good for it's purpose then, then all should be perfect and good for it's purpose now.
It can then be said that perfection evolves over time.
The perfection of God and His universe became evolving perfection the moment He began to create.
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And wouldn't that mean that the definition of perfection is constantly changing?Faith Leads to Knowledge wrote:if perfection evolves, how does it ever reach a state of perfection.
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In the American language, as opposed to the English language, perfect does not necessarily mean excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement; entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings or unqualified; absolute. In American, there can be degrees of perfection.Faith Leads to Knowledge wrote:if perfection evolves, how does it ever reach a state of perfection.
Jesse Jackson, Jr. wrote a book, A More Perfect Union: Advancing New American Rights.The Preamble to the United States Constitution wrote:We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union ...
"A More Perfect Union" is the name of a speech delivered by the Senator for Illinois, Barack Obama () on March 18, 2008 in the course of the contest for the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nomination.
Scott Mutter, an American photographer, has a gallery called, A More Perfect World.
Cynthia Nolan, at the annual meeting of the International Studies Association, San Diego, California, USA on Mar 22, 2006 presented a paper entitled "More Perfect Oversight: Intelligence Oversight and Reform".
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Post #8
But wasn't it good when he created it and then it turned bad due to man?jgh7 wrote:It's pretty funny how God says everything is good and then later on he regrets ever making it and decides to destroy nearly all of it in the great flood. Yeah, maybe you should look at the whole bible instead of choosing bits and pieces to try and fit your own theories.
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mcculloch, more perfect woulod imply striving towards something close to completeness. not sure there is a distinction in anglo/american meanings.