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[imhereforyou]

He created all that is, but needs your hard earned money to build a church or pay his people?
Why?
Why can't God create a church from the ground without your money (or time, for that matter)?

Surely the spontaneous creation of a building with all the plumbing and electrical needed would be enough to convince most, if not all, of his existence. But we don't see that - we see faces of Jesus in grilled cheeses or Doritos. No...no spontaneous church creation - that requires your money.

The typical response is "God doesn't need your money, you need to give your money to God" or the like. But if you're a Christian, and the love of money is the root of all evil, shouldn't you not be so concerned with your $ that it is a challenge for you to give it up to build a church or pay the electric bill?

So what's the real reason such a being needs your money to further his kingdom?

[JehovahsWitness]

Our "church" buildings are mostly built by volunteer workers who work for free.

Unless God miraculously provides all the material needed for the construction of your church buildings, then money is needed for their completion.

♦ I did not say otherwise, I made a simple statement of fact, do you contend there is something inaccurate in my statement?




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[Tcg]

♦ I did not say otherwise, I made a simple statement of fact, do you contend there is something inaccurate in my statement?

I quite clearly stated this, "If money is involved in some way, then your claim doesn't address the OP in any way." Do you contend there is something inaccurate in this statement?

[JehovahsWitness]

♦ I did not say otherwise, I made a simple statement of fact, do you contend there is something inaccurate in my statement?

I quite clearly stated this, "If money is involved in some way, then your claim doesn't address the OP in any way." Do you contend there is something inaccurate in this statement?

Indeed your statement is inaccurate since it implies mine was is totally unrelated to the issues raised in the OP. Since the the original post questions the relationship between money and worship my statement does in some way address this post. Hence you claim that my statement doesn't address it {qoute} " In any way" is patently false. The "way" may have been indirect, since the questions raised are loaded and based imho on a false premise, which is why I chose to deal with the fundamental issues rather than false dichotomy, but my statement most certainly relates to the central issues raised by those questions.

Is there anything else you would like me to clarify for you?

[Tcg]

Indeed your statement is inaccurate since it implies mine was is totally unrelated to the issues raised in the OP.

It is accurate. Given that the OP asks why God needs money. You ignored that fact that God needs money to build church buildings.

Since the the original post questions the relationship between money and worship my statement does in some way address this post.

The OP doesn't mention worship at all. Once again, your response doesn't address the OP.

Is there anything else you would like me to clarify for you?

Nothing more than the issues I've already brought up which you have failed to address.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 14 by Tcg]

Do you understand the difference between what is said and the issues raised by something said? If so can you explain how this relates to my explanation and the OP? Is it possible to raise and/or address an issue without repeating found in an original statement?

[Tcg]

Do you understand the difference between what is said and the issues raised by something said?

What I understand is that you have addressed neither what has been said nor the issues raised by what has been said. If you have evidence that your church buildings were built without the use of money, you'd be addressing the OP. Do you have such evidence? If so, please present it.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 16 by Tcg]

Thank you for your reply but you have yet to demonstrate that you do indeed understand the difference; I have presented my rationale for the statement made and your repeating your affirmation without counterargument does nothing to support your claim.

Since I made no statement to the effect that our church "buildings were built without the use of money" nor as I fully explained in my original post, is it reasonable to believe they should be, I do believe this to be a strawman argument.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 17 by JehovahsWitness]

I haven't made a claim. I've asked you to present evidence that your church has built church buildings without money. Your inability to do so indicates that what you have presented is not related to the OP.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 18 by Tcg]

Yes you did you claimed my statement did not address the OP "in any way" , I have responded it addresses the issues raised. Feel free to review my full answer in the link below


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[studentgary]

Exodus 20:24-25

Anything else is a sin.