Prostitutes-what to do

[Greatest I Am]

Prostitutes must have a special place in Heaven.

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

The societal response to these abused people is rather strange. We create them and then use our police and laws to further abuse our sons and daughters legally. We do provide social services on occasion but most of our response is negative. We drive them to a lifestyle of drugs and slavery under pimps and use police to try to hide our own shame in a forgotten cell.

What should people do. Having created this trade, should we now use them and abuse them more or should we let them starve or find some other criminal activity in order to live.

Are we paying them for our gratification or is the payment to ease our conscience for creating them.
Do some of us use them with compassion because we recognize that they are our creation? Or am I trying to justify their existence. In countries where poverty is rampant and children are sold by their own parents, can it be said that this is good in order to maintain a family structure. Is it OK to go to some of these places of poverty and contribute to their economy. Not availing ourselves of this product do we help the country to stay poor.
The same weird situation exists where child labor occurs. If we do not buy the carpet woven by the eight year old, does his family then go hungry.

There is good and evil in everything, can we clear up the view of this problem and know the best course of action?

Does survival of the fittest include the ability to use and abuse our own children. We tend to continue with these unsightly customs regardless of the wealth of a given nation. Would wealth and education put an end to these practices? It appears not.

Question for debate.
Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Please do not say things like ending poverty without telling us how.
Impossible solutions are not solutions.

Regards
DL

[mister_lee]

Prostitutes must have a special place in Heaven.

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

The societal response to these abused people is rather strange. We create them and then use our police and laws to further abuse our sons and daughters legally. We do provide social services on occasion but most of our response is negative. We drive them to a lifestyle of drugs and slavery under pimps and use police to try to hide our own shame in a forgotten cell.

What should people do. Having created this trade, should we now use them and abuse them more or should we let them starve or find some other criminal activity in order to live.

Are we paying them for our gratification or is the payment to ease our conscience for creating them.
Do some of us use them with compassion because we recognize that they are our creation? Or am I trying to justify their existence. In countries where poverty is rampant and children are sold by their own parents, can it be said that this is good in order to maintain a family structure. Is it OK to go to some of these places of poverty and contribute to their economy. Not availing ourselves of this product do we help the country to stay poor.
The same weird situation exists where child labor occurs. If we do not buy the carpet woven by the eight year old, does his family then go hungry.

There is good and evil in everything, can we clear up the view of this problem and know the best course of action?

Does survival of the fittest include the ability to use and abuse our own children. We tend to continue with these unsightly customs regardless of the wealth of a given nation. Would wealth and education put an end to these practices? It appears not.

Question for debate.
Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Please do not say things like ending poverty without telling us how.
Impossible solutions are not solutions.

Regards
DL

You're generalizing all prostitues as society's outcasts it seems like. I'm also a little confused regarding the question for debate. Are you suggesting we utilize prostitutes and their serivces in life thus enabling the behavior, which as a by product would set an example for others?

Until it's clarified, let me say this: I have a unique perspective on this in that I'm close to someone who chose to provide these services and let me tell you this person had every opportunity in life and chose not to take advantage of it. And as a because of knowing her, I also knew the people she was around and many of these girls were not abused. They chose to use men to get what they wanted. Maybe this doesn't apply to the topic, but I definitely don't agree with enabling prostitutes. I'll comment again after I better understand the question and the your perspective.

[The Duke of Vandals]

Clearly, the best thing to do with prostitution is to make it illegal which should completely stop it from happening. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, there's nothing stopping prostitution from being legal beyond our absurd puritanical roots.

There are better ways to help abused kids than by going after prostitution. Prostitution is the effect, not the cause.

[otseng]

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

I'm not so sure about this. Do you have any statistics to back this up?

Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Are you asking if we should pay for sex in order for prostitutes to survive? Why not just simply give them money to help them survive without having any sex involved?

[FinalEnigma]

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

I'm not so sure about this. Do you have any statistics to back this up?

Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Are you asking if we should pay for sex in order for prostitutes to survive? Why not just simply give them money to help them survive without having any sex involved?

I have to agree with this one. I would be a little worried about STDs to randomely go having sex with prostitutes. Assuming i was remotely inclined to do that anyway. Which im not. I would rather just give them money.

[Greatest I Am]

Prostitutes must have a special place in Heaven.

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

The societal response to these abused people is rather strange. We create them and then use our police and laws to further abuse our sons and daughters legally. We do provide social services on occasion but most of our response is negative. We drive them to a lifestyle of drugs and slavery under pimps and use police to try to hide our own shame in a forgotten cell.

What should people do. Having created this trade, should we now use them and abuse them more or should we let them starve or find some other criminal activity in order to live.

Are we paying them for our gratification or is the payment to ease our conscience for creating them.
Do some of us use them with compassion because we recognize that they are our creation? Or am I trying to justify their existence. In countries where poverty is rampant and children are sold by their own parents, can it be said that this is good in order to maintain a family structure. Is it OK to go to some of these places of poverty and contribute to their economy. Not availing ourselves of this product do we help the country to stay poor.
The same weird situation exists where child labor occurs. If we do not buy the carpet woven by the eight year old, does his family then go hungry.

There is good and evil in everything, can we clear up the view of this problem and know the best course of action?

Does survival of the fittest include the ability to use and abuse our own children. We tend to continue with these unsightly customs regardless of the wealth of a given nation. Would wealth and education put an end to these practices? It appears not.

Question for debate.
Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Please do not say things like ending poverty without telling us how.
Impossible solutions are not solutions.

Regards
DL

You're generalizing all prostitutes as society's outcasts it seems like. I'm also a little confused regarding the question for debate. Are you suggesting we utilize prostitutes and their services in life thus enabling the behavior, which as a by product would set an example for others?

Until it's clarified, let me say this: I have a unique perspective on this in that I'm close to someone who chose to provide these services and let me tell you this person had every opportunity in life and chose not to take advantage of it. And as a because of knowing her, I also knew the people she was around and many of these girls were not abused. They chose to use men to get what they wanted. Maybe this doesn't apply to the topic, but I definitely don't agree with enabling prostitutes. I'll comment again after I better understand the question and the your perspective.

Many prostitutes enter the business for the money, no doubt. I think the majority,
if we look at all countries, are forced by conditions not of their choice, to enter the trade.
I think that we cannot at this time, or ever, stop abuse in the home by parents or step parents .
Knowing this, legalization would seem to be a better response than police and jail. More abuse. It is like telling them that we have destroyed your youth and innocence, now let us destroy the rest of your life.
Further, in those countries where parents actively sell their children, if prostitution is legal, some of the youngest might be spared.
In terms of using their services, I do not promote the idea but am not judgemental of those who use it otherwise I do not know what worse trouble these people would get into.
There does seem to be a trend that is posible. In wealthy countries IE. Amsterdam, they have legalized the practice and I think they have fewer young being forced into the trade. Other poor but legal countries, IE. Singapore and Filipines, many young are forced to enter into it.

Other than full legalization worldwide, to take the larger amount of coercion out of the trade, I do not know where the solution lies.

What to do is the question?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I Am]

Clearly, the best thing to do with prostitution is to make it illegal which should completely stop it from happening. [/sarcasm]

Seriously, there's nothing stopping prostitution from being legal beyond our absurd puritanical roots.

There are better ways to help abused kids than by going after prostitution. Prostitution is the effect, not the cause.

True.
Although legalization does not end the abuse.
I would like to see a change in civil law where victims could retaliate against abusers.
Hard to prove in court though when IE. mother turn a blind eye to the plight of daughters.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I Am]

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

I'm not so sure about this. Do you have any statistics to back this up?

Is it better to avail one’s self of the services of a prostitute to help them survive, or is there a better way.

Are you asking if we should pay for sex in order for prostitutes to survive? Why not just simply give them money to help them survive without having any sex involved?

If a paying customer does not abuse elsewhere, then yes I would say go out and pay. I do not know if this is generally the case I doubt it. Abusers are gratifying their minds, not their bodies. A different hunger.

Simply giving charity would further abuse and add to their sense of worthlessness. Many would smoke it anyway.

I'm still looking for a better way.

Regards
DL

[Zzyzx]

GIA,

You start with a faulty premise, IMO.

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

You have presented no evidence to support the assertion that prostitutes are products of abusive homes or societies. Some prostitutes may be a product of abusive situations, some may not. One cannot assume one way or the other without investigation (unless one does not care whether they are right or wrong in what they say).

Can you honestly say that ALL prostitutes come from abusive homes? Can some be engaging in the business for "fun and profit"? Can some be college students seeking money for expenses or extravagances? Can some be housewives seeking a thrill and a bit of spending money? Can you say these NEVER happen?

If the premise is faulty, the discussion is faulty.

[Greatest I Am]

GIA,

You start with a faulty premise, IMO.

Prostitutes. male or female, are products of abuse by our societies. These young people come out of homes where physical, mental and sexual abuse has occurred. They are basically forced from their environment to the streets.

You have presented no evidence to support the assertion that prostitutes are products of abusive homes or societies. Some prostitutes may be a product of abusive situations, some may not. One cannot assume one way or the other without investigation (unless one does not care whether they are right or wrong in what they say).

Can you honestly say that ALL prostitutes come from abusive homes? Can some be engaging in the business for "fun and profit"? Can some be college students seeking money for expenses or extravagances? Can some be housewives seeking a thrill and a bit of spending money? Can you say these NEVER happen?

If the premise is faulty, the discussion is faulty.

I meant this as a general look at the problem. If you need statistics then the last I read was that 60% of females suffer abuse in the home and 40% of males.
These statistics are for north America but since they fluctuate for, various countries are meaningless. The reason I excluded them.

I would estimate that 50% of prostitutes are of the abused variety. I am not concerned with the rest.

Now was there something you wanted to say on the topic or is presentation all you care about.

Regards
DL