The Voice of the Lord

[SallyF]

Is the voice of the Lord ever heard anywhere other than in the minds of the people who believe the Lord is talking to them ?


(The "Lord" in the OT is the deity Jehovah; the "Lord" in the NT is the demi-god Jesus: but they are actually one in the same sort of.)

[tam]

Peace to you,

I believe you asked me about this on another thread. I am going to link to a thread I created some time back for similar reasons.

Please note from that thread:

I can only provide evidence in the form of:

a) Personal testimony from having heard Christ
b) The written testimony of or about others who have heard Christ
c) What Christ Himself is written to have said on the matter

And...

If one wants to know the truth of this matter themselves... then ask Christ. That is how one can confirm for themselves. Ask for ears to hear, and in the meantime DO what He has said to do, so that you prove yourself to Him. He does not have to prove Himself to us.

"If anyone loves me, they will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with (in) them."

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Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[William]

William: The "Voice of the LORD" is many things to many people, and I see no reason to suppose it should be otherwise.

I understand the phrase to mean "The Creators Voice" and hear the Creators 'voice' within the Creation.
I try to avoid conflating The Creator with ideas of who that might be in religious or non-religious terms.

I find the idea that The Creator of this Universe would find it necessary to be worshiped in the framework of some Human Idea. It seems an absurd proposition.

[SallyF]

Well YES !

We all seem to be agreed that the ONLY place one EVER hears the voice of Jehovah, or Jesus, or the Holy Ghost is inside their own heads.

And that "voice" seems to happen most loudly after reading biblical stories of Jehovah/Jesus/Holy Ghost.

And we have determined that these biblical stories are:

a) Fantasy fiction

b) Historical fiction

c) Mythology


We have NOT determined that ANY of these stories are:

a) Non-fiction

b) The "Word of God"


Which - for me - demonstrates that Christianity is full of make-believe and prejudice

And a limited amount of cherry-picked, common, humanist values.

[SallyF]

Do Christians today - like the primitives who wrote the biblical "scriptures" - still believe that thunder is the voice of their version of "God" ?





Not a Christian soul here has offered that the voice of their version of "God" is anything more than a mental process in their brain.

So, perhaps thunderclaps are the voice of Jehovah or Jesus ?

Which would make dictating "scripture" rather tricky.

[SallyF]

Or a megaphone !

Does Jesus use a megaphone ?

I've never seen or heard Jesus with a megaphone.

Could this be part of the make-believe ?

Arguing against Christianity is quite straightforward if one uses resources from Christian websites.

Quite obviously, we are only EVER going to hear Jehovah/Jesus/Holy Ghost inside our own minds.

And all sorts of imaginary things go on in there.

And sometimes they convince us they are REAL !!!

[Menotu]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]


I heard a talking bush that was burning but was never consumed.

Not really (though that would be a good piece of proof for me)
I've heard a lot of stuff in my head over the years. Much of it I mistakenly attributed to God. Now I know better.
But at the time, it was comforting.
Now, it make me feel privileged that I can recognize myself and not attribute it to some gene-god

[SallyF]

[Replying to post 1 by SallyF]


I heard a talking bush that was burning but was never consumed.

Not really (though that would be a good piece of proof for me)
I've heard a lot of stuff in my head over the years. Much of it I mistakenly attributed to God. Now I know better.
But at the time, it was comforting.
Now, it make me feel privileged that I can recognize myself and not attribute it to some gene-god

And if we brainwash the kiddies from a VERY early age, they may grow up to be adults who actually believe this fantasy fiction is real


And try to argue for them on debating sites.

But they don't have a shred of evidence that their biblical Jehovah god has ever existed anywhere other than in the imaginations of humans.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Is the voice of the Lord ever heard anywhere other than in the minds of the people who believe the Lord is talking to them ?


(The "Lord" in the OT is the deity Jehovah; the "Lord" in the NT is the demi-god Jesus: but they are actually one in the same sort of.)

Deut.4
[33] Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

The voice of God. (Dogma - 1999)

[SallyF]

Is the voice of the Lord ever heard anywhere other than in the minds of the people who believe the Lord is talking to them ?


(The "Lord" in the OT is the deity Jehovah; the "Lord" in the NT is the demi-god Jesus: but they are actually one in the same sort of.)

Deut.4
[33] Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

The voice of God. (Dogma - 1999)

Hmm

Looks like the fabricators of "scripture" are telling us that people back then DID hear the voice of the mythological Jehovah


And Jehovah ZAPPED them !


But


As we know from the same "scripture"


Magic foreskins can ward off the zappings of Jehovah !





One really does have to filter out a LOT of stuff that one just doesn't like, if one is to be a (partial) believer


I suggest.