Respect

[Menotu]

Here, we're told to have a civil tone with each other (which is harder for some than others ) and respectful
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That's all fine and good.
But in reality - your life - are you respectful of others, their lifestyles, their personalities...?
Is respect of others something the bible says you should have?
Or is it not spoken of?
If not, should it be something a good, God-believin'-Christian should have towards others?
And what does respect mean, as a Christian?
Are you help to a higher or lower standard?
Or should respect be discarded (except for here, of course)?

[Purple Knight]

Respect, I have learned, is the false virtue of those who cannot stand up to arguments that use insults.

I'm one of them. I was simply disabused of the notion that having respect for another person is anything but the refuge of the coward who is beaten cleanly by insults.

If someone wins an argument by calling me stupid, I can cry all I want that the other person used a fallacy, but that doesn't cause me to win the argument.

In life, if you want respect, you must never ever give respect.

I know this because I give respect always, and I have never once gotten respect unless it was forced by some rule.

Knowing where the chips will fall on the free marketplace of ideas is beyond humbling. I would like to think there's a thread of truth in sticking to the rules that is absent in a free-for-all, but what I like is not the arbiter of what is truth.

The truth is the free-for all. That is where the truly great ideas rise to the surface.

[otseng]

Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

When God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords, should I respect God for that? Or can I be just a bit contemptuous?

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

When God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords, should I respect God for that? Or can I be just a bit contemptuous?

Are you suggesting this is a universal requirement ? Soldiers dont usually come home and kill their own children as aa part of their worship.

[Willum]

Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

When God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords, should I respect God for that? Or can I be just a bit contemptuous?

Are you suggesting this is a universal requirement ? Soldiers dont usually come home and kill their own children as aa part of their worship.

I suppose it is, if in like Judges 11, you swear to God, like Jepthah, to kill your own children.
So, no, it does not seem to be universal behavior, unless Yahweh is involved.

I am becoming more and more convinced that that so called god is really just a demon with a good marketing campaign or press agents.

[Zzyzx]

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Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

When God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords, should I respect God for that? Or can I be just a bit contemptuous?

Are you suggesting this is a universal requirement ? Soldiers dont usually come home and kill their own children as aa part of their worship.

How often or widespread does killing of babies need to be before Apologists recognize that it isn't a good idea (or good leadership)?

[JehovahsWitness]

So, no, it does not seem to be universal behavior, unless Yahweh is involved.

Can you substantiate your claim by providing

• - a divine law mandating Jewish soldiers kill their own children
  
  and /or ...
  
  - multiple examples to support the claim that this was the "universal" standard for approved worship of YHWH in the bible times.

In the absence of the above I would say it is a gross misprepresentation of the biblical standards for worship to say "God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords". This statement falsely implies that, rather than being a grim but necessary feature of the unique and limited wars to conquer the promised land under General Joshua, killing children (ones own or others) was a fundamental and constant requrement of Jewish worship.




JW

For more information go to other posts related to

RAPE, KILLING and ... THE FLOOD OF NOAH'S DAY

[Willum]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

I am surprised you can not.
Actually, few people so little know their Bible as Christian denominations.
I already cited Judges 11, where Jepthah made an oath, and Yahweh did nothing to stop the daughter running out.
Couldve been the dog, if you had any kind of merciful god. Or, your Yahweh couldve intervened a la Abraham and had an animal show up like the goat.
But it would seem to be universal otherwise, I can find no other instances where someone makes this kind of oath with a different result.
Can you?

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Yes, the Bible demands it, esp when we are defending our faith, in any context.

[1Pe 3:15 ESV] but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

When God requires that children and babies be systematically hacked to death with swords, should I respect God for that? Or can I be just a bit contemptuous?

Are you suggesting this is a universal requirement ? Soldiers dont usually come home and kill their own children as aa part of their worship.

I am suggesting NOTHING. I am pointing out that the Bible specifically records how, on five different occasions, God ordered that helpless people, including children and babies, should be systematically hacked to death with swords, right down to the last infant in arms. (Numbers 31:15-18, Joshua 6:20-21, Joshua 11:19-20, Ezekiel 9:4-7, Samuel 1 15:2-3) THIS THEN IS THE GOD YOU SERVE!

One such example would be repugnant. Five examples make the God in question and all who serve him little more than hideous ogres.

But I can excuse a God whom I don't suppose for a moment ever existed to begin with. Those who are willing to not only excuse but support such vile repugnant actions however as apparently not only necessary but righteous, are condemned beyond all possible redemption. And their repugnant beliefs along with them.