The only way to Salvation

[OneJack]

The only way to attain eternal life is by COMING to and FOLLOWING the Lord Jesus Christ until the end,

John 10:27. My sheep HEAR my voice, and I know them, and they FOLLOW me:

28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Matt. 11:28. COME unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 TAKE my yoke upon you, and LEARN of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Matt 19:21. Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and COME and FOLLOW me.

John 5:39. You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,

40 yet you refuse to COME to me to have life.

[OneJack]

The verse apparently came from "the Lord". They are one in the same. This is my point. And the 'Lord' states at least one type of sin is not forgivable.

Seemingly come from. But I respect your opinion. Were traveling on two parallel tracks and the chance of passing a cross path is zero, so far!

Not all sin, just some sin. And it sounds like the 'Lord' offers absolutely no grace for some sin. Which means you are wrong. So now what?

What so now what? I have no problem with that issue since the Lord taught us His stand on sins, with no exceptions.

I just demonstrated it is much more than a 'notion.'

Okay, your opinion is noted!

Hmm, so are you saying the Bible God gives you differing answers to the exact same questions/topics than He gives others, who also claim to receive answers from the same God?

No comment, you have ears to hear from, feet to come to, mouth to ask, feet to come nigh to, and ears to listen to, and a heart to decide to follow or not to follow.. thats the question?

P1) Apparently, the Bible isn't clear on the path to salvation unless Jesus reveals Himself directly to you

A resounding Yes!

P2) You claim Jesus has revealed Himself directly to you

You have just said it!

P3) God claims to have also revealed Himself directly to others in the Bible.

Could you rephrase this clearly to a grade school pupil?

P4) God offers differing paths to salvation, in differing parts of the Bible, and to you.

No, God is consistent in this issue!

P5) Therefore, your position is false, as it does not matter if you believe God reveals Himself directly to you, or not. God is not clear when it comes to the path to salvation, as He offers differing paths to differing folks, who claim to have received direct information from Him.

Same as in P4

This is likely only because you are not confident God really speaks to you.

Its the reverse, God has His own ways of responding to us every day even when we do not move our lips in talking to Him any time, anywhere.

It is much safer for you, when you are not challenged, but instead only given complete carte blanche to offer baseless assertions.

Ours is a true-to-life encounter with the Lord Jesus for more or less 14 years of random teachings and on-the-job training.

Again, since you claim to have direct access to Jesus, please ask Jesus what POI's favorite food is, and then tell me.

Let me guess first - balot at penoy with sukang iloko sauce.

When you give me the correct answer, I will immediately know you are not a liar. Failure to do so simply means you are offering baseless assertions, which anyone can do while offering apologetics for any religion.

Do you have any blood relationship to the companion of Dimas on the cross?

Your response makes no logical sense. I'm asking you, since you claim to have access to the source. How do you know that God will only speak to you if you have the right 'heart'? And why does the Bible not agree?

A lazy person has no space or room in the bosom of Lazarus.

[POI]

[Replying to OneJack in post #30]

Your offering of baseless quips does not make for an effective or productive debate strategy. Please try again or I'm moving on...

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #171]

I'll ask you again about your encounter with Jesus from 2001 to 2014- would you care to share some details?

Why not? The Lord's coming into our lives started 14 years back, before His full revelations in 2001 - the time when a son was born in the name of Maco, my nephew. The Lord Jesus provided us with the summary of everything, in plain Tagalog texts, regarding His full revelation that commenced in the calendar year 2001 as follows:

Ika-26 na araw ng Marso taong 1987, ipinanganak ang isang bata na pinanganlan na Maco o Makie. Habang siya ay lumalaki, bukas ang kanyang mata sa espirutual kaya’t kanyang nakikita ang kabutihan at ang kasamaaan.”

“Nang sumapit ang ika-7 taon, pitong anghel ang sa kanya ay napakita at nagbalita sa kanya. Ibinalita nila na sa tinakdang araw ay bababa o magpapakahayag ang Panginoong Hesukristo sa kanya, sa pamilya ni OneJack, sa isang babae na nagngangalang Marita, at sa isang lalaki na biglang susulpot upang magtrabaho sa ginagawang bahay ng pamangkin ng asawa ni OneJack. Isang ministeryo ang matatayo at sa una ito’y kabibilangan ng isang pamilya nguni’t sa kadahilanan na nagtiwala siya sa payo ng isang tao, sila’y maglalaho na lang na parang pumutok na bula. Nguni’t isang pamilya ang papalit sa kanila na maaring maakay at dito susulpot ang lalaki.”

“Nguni’t bago ito maganap, siya ay magkakasakit nang hindi pangkaraniwan sapagka’t ang sakit na ito ay magmumula sa mga demonyo at walang ibang makagagamot liban sa Panginoong Hesukristo at ito ay mangyayari. Ang unang pag-atake ng kanyang sakit ay nangyari at naganap noong ika-5 araw ng buwan ng Abril, taong 2001. Umulit ito noong buwan ng Mayo hanggang sa magpatuloy ito at hindi siya makapag-aral. Hanggang sa akalain ng lahat na siya ay kinukulam kaya’t siya ay dinala sa isang manggagamot ng kulam nuong ika-25 araw ng buwan ng Hunyo taong 2001. At dito’y naglokohan ang mga demonyo at nagpahamak ng isang tao. Sa panggagamot na ito ay inakala ng lahat na siya ay gumaling nguni’t nuong unang araw ng buwan ng Hulyo taong 2001 ay mas lalong lumala ang nasabing sakit sa muli nitong pag-ulit at dito din naman sa araw na ito nagwakas ang kasamaan nang ang lahat ay sumuko sa Panginoong Hesukristo na Siya lamang ang makapagpapagaling sa hindi maipaliwanag at maintindihang sakit. At ang lahat ay pumanatag sa gabing iyon.”

“Nuong ika-4 na araw ng buwan ng Hulyo sa kasalukuyang taon (2001) ay isang kuwento ang nalaman sa nasabing sakit. Ito ay nagmula sa Panginoong Hesuskristo na Makapangyarihan sa lahat na nagpagaling sa nasabing sakit. Nang sumapit ang ika-22 ng Hulyo ay itinatag ang Beginning A New Life With Jesus Ministry sa Antipolo City, alas 5:00ng hapon. At sa pangyayaring ito nagsimula ang lahat. Nuong unang araw ng Agosto taong 2001 ay naglaho ang isang pamilya nang dahil sa nagtiwala ang magulang nito sa isang tao.”

“Sa pangyayaring ito nagsimula ang pag-uusig. Sila ay nagsilbing kontrabida sa ministeryong itinayo. At ang katapusan nito ay nang magpakahayag ang Panginoong Hesukristo na nagsasabi, “AKO ANG INYONG PANGINOONG DIYOS NA MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT. KAYO AY MAGALAK AT MAGSAYA SAPAGKA’T AKO AY LUBUSAN NINYO NANG NAKILALA KAYA’T HUMAYO KAYO AT IKALAT ANG AKING SALITA.”

English Translation:


March 26, 1987, a child named Maco or Makie was born. As he grew up, his spiritual eyes were open, and he could see good and evil.

When he turned 7 years old, seven angels appeared to him and announced that on a predetermined day, Lord Jesus Christ would descend and manifest to him, to OneJack's family, to a woman named Marita, and to a man who would suddenly appear to work on the house being built by OneJack, which belonged to Onejack’s wife's nephew. A ministry would be established, initially consisting of one family, but because she trusted a person's advice, they would vanish like a popped bubble. Another family would replace them, who could be led, and the man would emerge.

However, before this happens, he will experience an unusual illness because the sickness comes from demons, and only Lord Jesus Christ can heal him, and it will happen. The first attack of his illness occurred on April 5, 2001. It recurred in May and continued, preventing him from studying. Everyone thought he was bewitched, so they took him to a witch doctor on June 25, 2001. The demons played tricks, and a person was harmed. Everyone thought he was cured, but on July 1, 2001, the illness worsened, and everyone gave up, surrendering to Lord Jesus Christ, who alone could heal the inexplicable and incomprehensible sickness. Everyone was at peace that night.

On July 4, 2001, the story of the sickness was revealed, coming from Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty, who healed the sickness. On July 22, Beginning A New Life With Jesus Ministry was established in Antipolo City at 5:00 pm. And with this event, everything began. On August 1, 2001, a family vanished because the parents trusted a person.

This event marked the beginning of persecution. They became antagonists to the established ministry. And it ended when Lord Jesus Christ declared, "I AM YOUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. REJOICE AND BE GLAD, FOR YOU HAVE TRULY KNOWN ME. GO AND SPREAD MY WORD."

Note: The establishment of a Beginning A New Life With Jesus Ministry was just in the beginning; it served as one of the trials set by the Lord on our path to salvation and eternal life, since we were used to the worship services and practices of various religious groups. The said ministry was later revoked and ceased to exist from that day onwards, since we all do not need to establish anything to worship God and be saved and have eternal life; all we need is to come to the Lord Jesus and let Him shepherd and guide us until the end to be saved and have eternal life.

Anyone could pronounce that your utterances from Jesus are nothing but your imagination.

Anyone is free to render his/her view and take on what we claim about the Lord Jesus Christ.

You can't see that her experiences with the Christ are every bit as valid as your claims to the same? In fact, your claims are made much more ridiculous because they contradict his words as recorded in scriptures, while hers align with the record.

How do you determine which words are the Lord Jesus' and which are not in the bible? Where did you learn that anything [we claim about the Lord Jesus] seems [in your view] to contradict what is written [about Him] in the scriptures will be considered ridiculous?

The difference between me, you, and Tammy is that I never trust anything, even the scriptures, as the word of God, except the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Almaghty God. Also, I value anything that is aligned with the Lord Jesus Christ and look at the bible as testimony to the Lord Jesus that He truly exists, so that anyone may come to Him to be saved and have eternal life.

[Mr E]

[Replying to OneJack in post #33]

March 26, 1987, a child named Maco or Makie was born. As he grew up, his spiritual eyes were open, and he could see good and evil.

When he turned 7 years old, seven angels appeared to him and announced that on a predetermined day, Lord Jesus Christ would descend and manifest to him, to OneJack's family, to a woman named Marita, and to a man who would suddenly appear to work on the house being built by OneJack, which belonged to Onejack’s wife's nephew. A ministry would be established, initially consisting of one family, but because she trusted a person's advice, they would vanish like a popped bubble. Another family would replace them, who could be led, and the man would emerge.

However, before this happens, he will experience an unusual illness because the sickness comes from demons, and only Lord Jesus Christ can heal him, and it will happen. The first attack of his illness occurred on April 5, 2001. It recurred in May and continued, preventing him from studying. Everyone thought he was bewitched, so they took him to a witch doctor on June 25, 2001. The demons played tricks, and a person was harmed. Everyone thought he was cured, but on July 1, 2001, the illness worsened, and everyone gave up, surrendering to Lord Jesus Christ, who alone could heal the inexplicable and incomprehensible sickness. Everyone was at peace that night.

On July 4, 2001, the story of the sickness was revealed, coming from Lord Jesus Christ, the Almighty, who healed the sickness. On July 22, Beginning A New Life With Jesus Ministry was established in Antipolo City at 5:00 pm. And with this event, everything began. On August 1, 2001, a family vanished because the parents trusted a person.

This event marked the beginning of persecution. They became antagonists to the established ministry. And it ended when Lord Jesus Christ declared, "I AM YOUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. REJOICE AND BE GLAD, FOR YOU HAVE TRULY KNOWN ME. GO AND SPREAD MY WORD."

Note: The establishment of a Beginning A New Life With Jesus Ministry was just in the beginning; it served as one of the trials set by the Lord on our path to salvation and eternal life, since we were used to the worship services and practices of various religious groups. The said ministry was later revoked and ceased to exist from that day onwards, since we all do not need to establish anything to worship God and be saved and have eternal life; all we need is to come to the Lord Jesus and let Him shepherd and guide us until the end to be saved and have eternal life.

Thank you (sincerely) for sharing that. It helps me understand you much better and I appreciate your willingness to be transparent.

I'll pray for you and your family with better clarity and also clear intent.