Dan Barker's Easter Challenge

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When you get some time, and you want to give the little grey cells a workout, you might want to give this a try:

The following is loosely based on Dan Barker's Easter Challenge:

Taking Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-10, Luke 24:1-12 and John 20:1-18 and using every verse from the above intermingle them into a single chronological list from the first event to the last.

Some verses can be shown in tandem when they are referring to the same event at the same time.

[JehovahsWitness]

When you get some time, and you want to give the little grey cells a workout, you might want to give this a try:

The following is loosely based on Dan Barker's Easter Challenge:

Taking Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-10*, Luke 24:1-12 and John 20:1-18 and using every verse from the above intermingle them into a single chronological list from the first event to the last.

Some verses can be shown in tandem when they are referring to the same event at the same time.

*MARK'S CONCLUSION It is generally understood that the verses after Mr 16:8 are not part of the inspired Scriptures so they have not been included below.


COMBINING THE VARIOUS ACCOUNTS


INTRO Jesus is buried on Friday afternoon (around 3pm) and remains dead all or in part of 3 days (Friday-Saturday-Sunday) NOTE Sunday starting at sunset on Saturday evening.

# Sometime in the darkness of the Sunday night (what we would call Saturday night) there is an earthquake and an angel appears...some of the terrified guards faint and all eventually flee the scene ( Mat 28:2-4)

#Some hours later, a group of women set out very early, before dawn intent on revisiting the grave ( Mat 28:1; Luke 24:1); their intention being to better treat the body with the extra herbs they had bought Saturday evening ( Mark 16:1). Unaware of the night's events they wonder who will roll the stone away for them to access the corpse ( Mark 16:3).

#Mary who may have started from a different set out point (or have left earlier) is the first to arrive at the grave in the pre-dawn darkness ( John 20:1). She sees the stone already rolled away and the tomb empty. Mary immediately leaves the grave running back to tell Peter and John ( John 20:2a).

#The rest of the women arrive at her heels or some minutes after at daybreak ( Mark 16:2). Like Mary they are equally puzzled that the stone has been displaced ( Mark 16:4; Luke 24:2) and the tomb is empty ( Luke 24:3). Possibly wandering back out, unlike decisive Mary , they stay near the grave unsure of what to do.

# Suddenly two angels (one possibly being the one that had rolled the stone in the night) appear ( Luke 24:4). They invite the terrified women, who are now cowering on the ground in fear, to inspect the empty tomb closely ( Mat 28:5, 6; Mark 16:5, 6; Luke 24: 5a). With possibly one speaking for both angels, they are told told that Jesus is risen and that they should inform his disciples that Jesus will meet them up north in Galilee ( Mat 28:7 ; Mark 16:7 ; Luke 24:5b-8)

#Filled with emotion and not stopping to speak to anyone but those who had a right to know ( Mark 16:8), the women rush to obey the Angel (Luke 24:9a). En route these women (EXCLUDING Mary) meet Jesus himself who repeats their commission to tell his disciples he will meet them in Galilee (Mat 28:8-10).

# Meanwhile Mary is reporting the empty tomb to John and Peter and her conclusion that the body has been stolen. All three head back (running) to inspect ( John 20:2b, 3).

#When Mary gets back with Peter and John (the women having already left the scene) they inspect the empty tomb and the men leave perplexed ( John 20:4b-10).

#Mary, however stays behind alone at the entrance of the tomb no doubt her face buried in her hands, weeping uncontrollably (John 20:11a). The two angels again appear at the scene, this time inside the tomb. When the weeping Mary again looks inside she sees them (John 20:11b-12). They ask her why she is weeping and (not composed enough to wonder how they got inside without her noticing) , she explains she believes the body has been stolen. As she is speaking a third man approaches, no doubt from behind. He too asks her why she is crying. Turning to him, and mistaking him for the gardener, she repeats the same thing to him but when he says her name with; no doubt, familiar affection, she realizes its the risen Christ ( John 20:14-15)

#Mary grabs him, holding him tight (perhaps fearful he will disappear as suddenly as he appeared) but Jesus reassures her and sends her with the same message back to the disciples ( John 20:16-17)

#Mary returns a second time to the Apostles and adds her testimony ( John 20:18) to that of the other women who no doubt had returned to report their encounter



NOTE After appearing on sunday morning to the (1) women and (2) Mary (neither of which are believed by the Apostles) Jesus appears to other various individuals

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

CONTRADICTIONS , SEQUENCING and ...EASTER CHALLENGES*

* harmonizing the resurrection narratives

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When you get some time, and you want to give the little grey cells a workout, you might want to give this a try:

The following is loosely based on Dan Barker's Easter Challenge:

Taking Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-10*, Luke 24:1-12 and John 20:1-18 and using every verse from the above intermingle them into a single chronological list from the first event to the last.

Some verses can be shown in tandem when they are referring to the same event at the same time.

*MARK'S CONCLUSION It is generally understood that the verses after Mr 16:8 are not part of the inspired Scriptures so they have not been included below.


COMBINING THE VARIOUS ACCOUNTS


INTRO Jesus is buried on Friday afternoon (around 3pm) and remains dead all or in part of 3 days (Friday-Saturday-Sunday) NOTE Sunday starting at sunset on Saturday evening.

# Sometime in the darkness of the Sunday night (what we would call Saturday night) there is an earthquake and an angel appears...some of the terrified guards faint and all eventually flee the scene ( Mat 28:2-4)

#Some hours later, a group of women set out very early, before dawn intent on revisiting the grave ( Mat 28:1; Luke 24:1); their intention being to better treat the body with the extra herbs they had bought Saturday evening ( Mark 16:1). Unaware of the night's events they wonder who will roll the stone away for them to access the corpse ( Mark 16:3).

#Mary who may have started from a different set out point (or have left earlier) is the first to arrive at the grave in the pre-dawn darkness ( John 20:1). She sees the stone already rolled away and the tomb empty. Mary immediately leaves the grave running back to tell Peter and John ( John 20:2a).

#The rest of the women arrive at her heels or some minutes after at daybreak ( Mark 16:2). Like Mary they are equally puzzled that the stone has been displaced ( Mark 16:4; Luke 24:2) and the tomb is empty ( Luke 24:3). Possibly wandering back out, unlike decisive Mary , they stay near the grave unsure of what to do.

# Suddenly two angels (one possibly being the one that had rolled the stone in the night) appear ( Luke 24:4). They invite the terrified women, who are now cowering on the ground in fear, to inspect the empty tomb closely ( Mat 28:5, 6; Mark 16:5, 6; Luke 24: 5a). With possibly one speaking for both angels, they are told told that Jesus is risen and that they should inform his disciples that Jesus will meet them up north in Galilee ( Mat 28:7 ; Mark 16:7 ; Luke 24:5b-8)

#Filled with emotion and not stopping to speak to anyone but those who had a right to know ( Mark 16:8), the women rush to obey the Angel (Luke 24:9a). En route these women (EXCLUDING Mary) meet Jesus himself who repeats their commission to tell his disciples he will meet them in Galilee (Mat 28:8-10).

# Meanwhile Mary is reporting the empty tomb to John and Peter and her conclusion that the body has been stolen. All three head back (running) to inspect ( John 20:2b, 3).

#When Mary gets back with Peter and John (the women having already left the scene) they inspect the empty tomb and the men leave perplexed ( John 20:4b-10).

#Mary, however stays behind alone at the entrance of the tomb no doubt her face buried in her hands, weeping uncontrollably (John 20:11a). The two angels again appear at the scene, this time inside the tomb. When the weeping Mary again looks inside she sees them (John 20:11b-12). They ask her why she is weeping and (not composed enough to wonder how they got inside without her noticing) , she explains she believes the body has been stolen. As she is speaking a third man approaches, no doubt from behind. He too asks her why she is crying. Turning to him, and mistaking him for the gardener, she repeats the same thing to him but when he says her name with; no doubt, familiar affection, she realizes its the risen Christ ( John 20:14-15)

#Mary grabs him, holding him tight (perhaps fearful he will disappear as suddenly as he appeared) but Jesus reassures her and sends her with the same message back to the disciples ( John 20:16-17)

#Mary returns a second time to the Apostles and adds her testimony ( John 20:18) to that of the other women who no doubt had returned to report their encounter



NOTE After appearing on sunday morning to the (1) women and (2) Mary (neither of which are believed by the Apostles) Jesus appears to other various individuals

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

CONTRADICTIONS , SEQUENCING and ...EASTER CHALLENGES*

* harmonizing the resurrection narratives

Jehovah's Witness, what year are you using for the death of the Lord Jesus? I use Wednesday, April 24, 31 A.D., the day before the Passover, as the crucifixion date.

[1213]

When you get some time, and you want to give the little grey cells a workout, you might want to give this a try:

The following is loosely based on Dan Barker's Easter Challenge:

Taking Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-10, Luke 24:1-12 and John 20:1-18 and using every verse from the above intermingle them into a single chronological list from the first event to the last.

Some verses can be shown in tandem when they are referring to the same event at the same time.

Here is how the Sunday events can be combined:

Mark. 16:1 And the sabbath passing, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome, bought spices, so that coming they might anoint Him.
Note! There was two Shabbat days. The Shabbat day of feast of unleavened bread and weekly Shabbat. Apparently after first Shabbat, Friday, spices were prepared and after second Shabbat they were brought to the tomb.
Mark. 16:2 And very early on the first of the week, the sun having risen, they came upon the tomb.
Matt.28:1 But after the sabbaths, at the dawning of the first of the sabbaths, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the grave.
(Mark. 16:3 And they said to themselves, Who will roll away the stone from the door of the tomb for us?)
(Luke 24:1 But on the first of the sabbaths, while still very early, they came on the tomb, carrying spices which they prepared; and some were with them.)
Matt.28:2 And, behold! A great earthquake occurred! For descending from Heaven and coming near, an angel of the Lord rolled away the stone from the door and was sitting on it.
Matt.28:3 And his face was as lightning and his clothing white as snow.
Matt.28:4 And those keeping guard were shaken from the fear of him, and they became as dead.
Note! Apparently, the earthquake and rolling of the stone was seen only by the guards, not the women that vent to the tomb.
Mark. 16:4 And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back; for it was very large.
Luke 24:2 And they found the stone having been rolled away from the tomb.
John:20:1 But on the first of the week, Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, darkness yet being on it . And she saw the stone had been removed from the tomb.
John:20:2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and said to them, They took away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they laid Him.
Note! Apparently, Mary left the tomb, while other women stayed at the tomb. When Mary had left, the other women entered the tomb and:2
Mark. 16:5 And entering into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, having been clothed in a white robe. And they were much amazed.
Luke 24:3 And going in, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
Luke 24:4 And it happened, as they were perplexed about this, even behold, two men in shining clothing stood by them.
Luke 24:5 And they becoming terrified, and bowing their faces to the earth, they said to them, Why do you seek the living with the dead?
Matt.28:5 But answering, the angel said to the women, You must not fear, for I know that you seek Jesus who has been crucified.
Matt.28:6 He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord was lying.
(Mark. 16:6 But He said to them, Do not be amazed. You seek Jesus the Nazarene who has been crucified. He was raised. He is not here. See the place where they put Him?)
(Luke 24:6 He is not here, but was raised. Remember how He spoke to you, yet being in Galilee,)
Luke 24:7 saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and to be crucified, and the third day to rise again.
Luke 24:8 And they remembered His words.
7 And going quickly say to His disciples that He was raised from the dead. And behold! He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there. Behold! I told you.
Mark. 16:7 But go, say to the disciples and to Peter, He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there, even as He told you.
Matt.28:8 And going away from the tomb quickly, with fear and great joy, they ran to report to His disciples.
Mark. 16:8 And going out quickly, they fled from the tomb. And trembling and ecstasy took hold of them. And they told no one, not a thing, for they were afraid.
Note!, some think that this means they never told about the matter to anyone ever. If that would be the case, we would not have this story. That is why it is reasonable to think they only didn’t tell on their way about it.
John:20:3 Then Peter and the other disciple went out and came to the tomb.
John:20:4 And the two ran together, and the other disciple ran in front more quickly than Peter and came first to the tomb.
John:20:5 And stooping down, he saw the linens lying; however, he did not go in.
John:20:6 Then Simon Peter came following him, and went into the tomb and saw the linens lying.
John:20:7 And the grave cloth which was on His head was not lying with the linens, but was wrapped up in one place by itself.
John:20:8 Therefore, then the other disciple also entered, he having come first to the tomb, even he saw and believed.
John:20:9 For they did not yet know the Scripture, that it was necessary for Him to rise from the dead.
John:20:10 Then the disciples went away again to themselves.
John:20:11 But Mary stood outside at the tomb, weeping. Then as she wept, she stooped down into the tomb.
John:20:12 And she saw two angels in white, sitting one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
John:20:13 And they said to her, Woman, why do you weep? She said to them, Because they took away my Lord, and I do not know where they put Him.
John:20:14 And saying these things, she turned backward and saw Jesus standing, and did not know that it was Jesus.
Note! Apparently, the other women had left some other route from the tomb, because didn’t see Peter and May on their way. Also, the disciples that came with Mary, left and Mary stayed alone there for a while.
(Mark. 16:9 And rising early on the first of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.)
John:20:15 Jesus said to her, Woman, why do you weep? Whom do you seek? Thinking that it was the gardener, she said to Him, Sir, if you carried Him away, tell me where you put Him, and I will take Him away.
John:20:16 Jesus said to her, Mary! Turning around, she said to Him, Rabboni! (that is to say, Teacher).
John:20:17 Jesus said to her, Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God, and your God.
John:20:18 Mary Magdalene came bringing word to the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that He told her these things.
(Mark. 16:10 That one had gone and reported to those who had been with Him, who were mourning and weeping.)
Mark. 16:11 And those hearing that He lives, and was seen by her, they did not believe.
Mark. 16:12 And after these things, He was revealed in a different form to two of them walking and going into the country.
Matt.28:9 But as they were going to report to His disciples, behold, Jesus also met them, saying, Hail! And coming near, they seized His feet and worshiped Him.
Note! Worship = to kiss the hand, or to kneel and show homage to superior rank, for example high priest.
Matt.28:10 Then Jesus said to them, Do not fear. Go tell your brothers that they may go into Galilee, and there they will see Me.
Luke 24:9 And returning from the tomb, they reported all these things to the Eleven, and to all the rest.
Mark. 16:13 And going, those reported to the rest. Neither did they believe those.
Luke 24:10 And they were Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary mother of James, and the rest with them, who told these things to the apostles.
Luke 24:11 And their words seemed like foolishness to them, and they did not believe them.
Luke 24:12 But rising up, Peter ran to the tomb, and stooping down he saw the linen lying alone. And he went away wondering to himself at what had happened.
Matt.28:11 And they, having gone, behold, some of the guard coming into the city reported to the chief priests all things that occurred.
Matt.28:12 And being assembled with the elders, and taking counsel, they gave enough silver to the soldiers,
Matt.28:13 saying, Say that his disciples came and stole him by night, we being asleep.
Matt.28:14 And if this is heard by the governor, we will persuade him and will make you free from anxiety.
Matt.28:15 And taking the silver, they did as they were taught. And this report was spread by the Jews until today.
Note! Matt. 28:11-15 is a separate story line that seems to have happened as the same time with other events. Apparently guards told what they had witnessed in the city, while many disciples did other things.
Luke 24:13 And, behold, two of them were going on the same day to a village being sixty stadia distant from Jerusalem, which was named Emmaus.
Luke 24:14 And they talked to each other about all these things taking place.
Luke 24:15 And it happened, as they talked and reasoned, coming near, Jesus Himself traveled with them.
Luke 24:16 But their eyes were held so as not to recognize Him.
Luke 24:17 And He said to them, What words are these which you exchange with each other while walking, and are sad of face?
Luke 24:18 And answering, one of them whose name was Cleopas, said to Him, Are you only one who resides in Jerusalem and do not know the things happening in it in these days?
Luke 24:19 And He said to them, What things? And they said to Him, The things concerning Jesus the Nazarene, who was a man, a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people;
Luke 24:20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the judgment of death, and crucified Him .
Luke 24:21 But we were hoping that He is the One going to redeem Israel. But then with all these things, this third day comes today since these things happened.
Luke 24:22 And also some of our women astounded us, having been early at the tomb,
Luke 24:23 and not finding His body, they came saying to have seen a vision of angels also, who say Him to be alive.
Luke 24:24 And some of those with us went to the tomb, and found it so , even as the women also said; but they did not see Him.
Luke 24:25 And He said to them, O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe on all things which the prophets spoke!
Luke 24:26 Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things, and to enter into His glory?
Luke 24:27 And beginning from Moses, and from all the prophets, He explained to them the things about Himself in all the Scriptures.
Luke 24:28 And they drew near to the village where they were going, and He seemed to be going further.
Luke 24:29 And they constrained Him, saying, Stay with us, for it is toward evening, and the day has declined. And He went in to stay with them.
Luke 24:30 And it happened as He reclined with them, taking the loaf, He blessed, and breaking He gave to them.
Luke 24:31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew Him. And He became invisible from them.
Luke 24:32 And they said to one another, Was not our heart burning in us as He spoke to us in the highway, and as He opened up to us the Scriptures?
Luke 24:33 And rising up in the same hour, they went back to Jerusalem, and they found the Eleven, and those with them, having been gathered,
Luke 24:34 saying, The Lord really was raised and appeared to Simon.
Luke 24:35 And they related the things in the highway, and how He was known to them in the breaking of the loaf.
Matt.28:16 But the eleven disciples went into Galilee, to the mount where Jesus appointed them.
Mark. 16:14 Afterward, as they reclined, He was revealed to the Eleven. And He reproached their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him, having been raised.
(Luke 24:36 And as they were telling these things, Jesus Himself stood in their midst, and said to them, Peace to you!)
(John:20:19 Then it being evening on that day, the first of the sabbaths, and the doors having been locked where the disciples were assembled, because of fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst and said to them, Peace to you.)
Luke 24:37 But being terrified and filled with fear, they thought they saw a spirit.
Matt.28:17 And seeing Him, they worshiped Him. But they doubted.
Luke 24:38 And He said to them, Why are you troubled? And why do reasonings come up in your hearts.
Luke 24:39 See My hands and My feet, that I am He? Feel Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see Me having.
Luke 24:40 And saying this, He showed them His hands and feet
(John:20:20 And saying this, He showed them His hands and side. Then seeing the Lord, the disciples rejoiced.)
Luke 24:41 But yet they not believing from the joy, and marveling, He said to them, Have you any food here?
Luke 24:42 And they handed a broiled part of a fish to Him, and from a honeycomb.
Luke 24:43 And taking these before them, He ate.
Luke 24:44 And He said to them, These are the words which I spoke to you yet being with you, that must be fulfilled all the things having been written in the Law of Moses, and the Prophets, and the Psalms, concerning Me.
Luke 24:45 Then He opened up their mind to understand the Scriptures,
Luke 24:46 and said to them, So it is written, and so the Christ must suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day. No OT passage
Luke 24:47 And repentance and remission of sins must be preached on His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
Luke 24:48 And you are witnesses of th48 And you are witnesses of these things.
Matt.28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.
Mark. 16:15 And He said to them, Going into all the world, preach the gospel to all the creation.
Matt.28:19 Going, then, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Matt.28:20 teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the completion of the age. Amen.
Mark. 16:16 The one believing and being baptized will be saved. And the one not believing will be condemned.
Mark. 16:17 And signs will follow to those believing these things: they will cast out demons in My name; they will speak new languages;
Mark. 16:18 they will take up snakes; and if they drink anything deadly, it will in no way hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will be well.
Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send forth the promise of My Father on you. But you sit in the city of Jerusalem until you are clothed with power from on high.
Luke 24:50 He led them out as far as to Bethany. And lifting up His hands, He blessed them.
John:20:21 Then Jesus said to them again, Peace to you. As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.
John:20:22 And saying this, He breathed on them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit.
John:20:23 Of whomever you forgive the sins, they are forgiven to them. Or whomever you may retain, they are retained.
Luke 24:51 And it happened as He blessed them, He withdrew from them and was carried into Heaven.
Mark. 16:19 Then indeed, after speaking to them, the Lord was taken up into Heaven, and sat off the right of God. Psa. 110:1
Luke 24:52 And worshiping Him, they returned to Jerusalem with great joy,
Mark. 16:20 And going out, they preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word by the signs following. Amen.
Luke 24:53 and were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.
John:20:24 But Thomas, one of the Twelve, the one called Twin, was not with them when Jesus came.
John:20:25 Then the other disciples said to him, We have seen the Lord. But he said to them, Unless I see the mark of the nails in His hands, and thrust my finger into the mark of the nails, and thrust my hand into His side, in no way will I believe.
John:20:26 And after eight days, His disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. The door having been locked, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said, Peace to you.
John:20:27 Then He said to Thomas, Bring your finger here and see My hands, and bring your hand and thrust into My side, and be not unbelieving, but believing.
John:20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, My Lord and my God!
John:20:29 Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, Thomas, you have believed. Blessed are the ones not seeing and believing.
John:20:30 Then truly Jesus did many other miracles in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book.
John:20:31 But these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2]

JehovahsWitness,

re: "# Sometime in the darkness of the Sunday night (what we would call Saturday night) there is an earthquake and an angel appears...some of the terrified guards faint and all eventually flee the scene ( Mat 28:2-4)"


But what we would call Saturday night ends at midnight. From then to Sunrise would be Sunday night. What makes you think that the earthquake took place during the second Saturday night versus the first Sunday night?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2]

JehovahsWitness,

re: "# Sometime in the darkness of the Sunday night (what we would call Saturday night) there is an earthquake and an angel appears...some of the terrified guards faint and all eventually flee the scene ( Mat 28:2-4)"


But what we would call Saturday night ends at midnight. From then to Sunrise would be Sunday night.

That's true... but I was using "saturday night" to refer to the hours of darkness before what we would call daybreak (dawn) on Sunday. But yes your right, strictly speaking Saturday night ends for us at midnight so it would be more accurate to say "during the dark of what we would call Saturday night or early Sunday morning before dawn...."

What makes you think that the earthquake took place during the second Saturday night versus the first Sunday night?

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question (what is the "second" Saturday night and the "first" Sunday night?)

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I'm sorry, I don't understand the question (what is the "second" Saturday night and the "first" Sunday night?)
[/quote]

I may be wrong on this, but for some reason you seem to be using a midnight to midnight calendar day when discussing an issue regarding an event which happened some 2000 years ago. So, as such, each calendar day has two night times - the first from midnight to sunrise and the second one from sunset to midnight. Ditto for Sunday.

[JehovahsWitness]

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question (what is the "second" Saturday night and the "first" Sunday night?)

I may be wrong on this, but for some reason you seem to be using a midnight to midnight calendar day when discussing an issue regarding an event which happened some 2000 years ago. So, as such, each calendar day has two night times - the first from midnight to sunrise and the second one from sunset to midnight. Ditto for Sunday.

I see ... well I just included how we would count days and nights for a reference, I am fully aware in the first century Hebrew culture the day started at sunset. I think the chart I included made it clear that we cannot say from the biblical narrative if the earthquake would have been before midnight or after. All we can say for sure it that it would have been before dawn since the women/Mary arrived just before dawn and the stone had already been moved.



Whether the earthquake happened before or after midnight is in the end irrelevant since both before and after would both have been Sunday for the Hebrews...

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[Replying to 1213 in post #4]

1213,

Why didn't you place John 20:1 right after Mark 16:1?

[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #4]

1213,

Why didn't you place John 20:1 right after Mark 16:1?

I think Joh starts from the moment they see the tomb open, they "saw the stone had been removed from the tomb". Mark and Matthew tells things that happened before it.

Mark. 16:4, Luke 24:2 and John 20:1 are basically the same by content.