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Several theists have declared that "god has a purpose" for humanity. Exactly what is that purpose and (more important), exactly how is that known to be an accurate assessment of what "god" wants?
What is "god's purpose"?
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What is "god's purpose"?
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence
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To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
Immortality and eternal life are two different things.
Immortality is living forever - in other words, conquering physical death.
Eternal life is living forever WITH GOD - conquering spiritual death.
Immortality and eternal life are two different things.
Immortality is living forever - in other words, conquering physical death.
Eternal life is living forever WITH GOD - conquering spiritual death.
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So far all you are doing is expressing an opinion and preaching. Let's debate the topic -- starting with evidence to support the four claims made above (which seem like religious platitudes or opinions rather than debate positions).
You forgot a critical part of the question exactly how is that known to be an accurate assessment of what "god" wants?axle12693 wrote:To bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
Immortality and eternal life are two different things.
Immortality is living forever - in other words, conquering physical death.
Eternal life is living forever WITH GOD - conquering spiritual death.
So far all you are doing is expressing an opinion and preaching. Let's debate the topic -- starting with evidence to support the four claims made above (which seem like religious platitudes or opinions rather than debate positions).
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence
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I wouldn't dream of debating any of it via evidence; there's no way to know or prove it. All we could legimately debate is intra- or inter-christian/jewish/muslim understandings of their own traditions. So it not about what IS God's purpose, rather it's about what do people SAY is God's purpose. And is there a consensus, normative, or coherent view?
I'd say it seems to be creation, expression, fulfillment, sanctity, union. And I'd probably add chocolate and boobs because I am convinced they have cosmic significance. I kid.
But this would be an interpretive debate, not a literal debate. The former interests me, that latter is a freak show.
FWIW, I can't even figure out my cat's purpose half the time, even with gobs of observable data!
I'd say it seems to be creation, expression, fulfillment, sanctity, union. And I'd probably add chocolate and boobs because I am convinced they have cosmic significance. I kid.
But this would be an interpretive debate, not a literal debate. The former interests me, that latter is a freak show.
FWIW, I can't even figure out my cat's purpose half the time, even with gobs of observable data!
Re: What is "god's purpose"?
Post #5First we would have to find a 'god'. Thereafter, a logical place to start for determining that particular 'god's' purpose would be to ask.Zzyzx wrote:.
Several theists have declared that "god has a purpose" for humanity. Exactly what is that purpose and (more important), exactly how is that known to be an accurate assessment of what "god" wants?