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Does anyone have "proof" that God/Satan exists? If there is evidence I'd sure like to hear it. This being a debate site we should have proof but I can't think of any.

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Spaceman13 wrote:Does anyone have "proof" that God/Satan exists?
Besides the obvious, I'd say the answer is no.
If there is evidence I'd sure like to hear it. This being a debate site we should have proof but I can't think of any.
Paul must have had you in mind:
  • Romans 1
    20For [God's] invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So [the non-theists] are without excuse.
Ok.

Um.

Welp, I guess that just about covers it, so ....

How 'bout them Atlanta Hawks? They gonna make it to the 2nd round this year? :D
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No one will know whilst we are alive if God and Satan exist. When we die there is an outside chance we might discover if that is the case, but on the balance of probability it is unlikely.

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The world is filled with evidence. Peoples are moved by the supernatural to do extremes, even unbelievable crimes belong to the same matter.

Evil ideas have their source and doesn't come from no where.
It seems to me that you can't see the forest for the trees.

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Spaceman13 wrote:Does anyone have "proof" that God/Satan exists? If there is evidence I'd sure like to hear it. This being a debate site we should have proof but I can't think of any.


There is no proof whatsoever that an intelligent mind made the universe, but the logical coherence of that remains dubious.

As for evidence that the Christian God and Satan as depicted in the Bible exist, there is probably none (and the world seems to contradict a literal interpretation of the scriptures).
FRED wrote:The world is filled with evidence.


It is filled with evidence for many scientific theories, but I have yet to see something which qualifies as evidence for the Christian God or any god altogether.
FRED wrote: Peoples are moved by the supernatural to do extremes, even unbelievable crimes belong to the same matter.


Prove that they were moved by the supernatural. Do you know or you just guess? Substantiate. Because I think they had pretty natural bases. The human mind is very complex, let alone societies.
FRED wrote:Evil ideas have their source and doesn't come from no where.


They come from the human mind, from the same source all "ideas" come. That's not "nowhere".

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Poke around this site. This topic has been done to death. Often it becomes a food fight, but behind it all there's a loty of really good stuff. Check it out.

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Spaceman13 wrote:Does anyone have "proof" that God/Satan exists? If there is evidence I'd sure like to hear it. This being a debate site we should have proof but I can't think of any.
How about the Higgs Boson?

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It's not called the "God particle" for nothing...

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/ ... nbach-text

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Shermana wrote:How about the Higgs Boson?

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It's not called the "God particle" for nothing...
Of course there's a reason.
Wikipedia wrote:"The God particle"

The Higgs boson is often referred to as "the God particle" by the media,[33] after the title of Leon Lederman's book, The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?.[34] While use of this term may have contributed to increased media interest in particle physics and the Large Hadron Collider,[34] many scientists dislike it, since it overstates the particle's importance, not least since its discovery would still leave unanswered questions about the unification of QCD, the Electroweak interaction and gravity, and the ultimate origin of the universe.[33] In a renaming competition, a jury of physicists chose the name "the champagne bottle boson" as the best popular name.[35]
How does that count as evidence that God and Satan exist? There's a nebula called the Crab Nebula, but that doesn't prove that a crab exists there as far as I know :-k.

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Well you admit there's a reason, now if you're as keen on astrophysics as you are on biology, perhaps you might understand there's a big difference between something being called a "Crab Nebula" and a "god particle".

It's not exactly purely arbitrary like the Camel and the Llama being in different genera.

There's also the issue of Earth Gravity that even Einstein was baffled by, but that's another subject.

Weinberg and Salam may be able to answer the questions about Electroweak....

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Shermana wrote:Well you admit there's a reason, now if you're as keen on astrophysics as you are on biology, perhaps you might understand there's a big difference between something being called a "Crab Nebula" and a "god particle".
Not really. Both are named according to a cultural human concept, this is the reason. However, they're both as indicative of existence (zero), though you're allowed to prove otherwise.
Shermana wrote:It's not exactly purely arbitrary like the Camel and the Llama being in different genera.
I don't know how arbitrary you might consider both of these activities, but they have some criteria. The criteria for biological classification is not the subject of this topic, and the criteria for that naming as I previously put is one chosen by Leon Lederman, but is not indicative of its existence, just a catchy and easily recognizable title (a good thing for a book).
Shermana wrote:There's also the issue of Earth Gravity that even Einstein was baffled by, but that's another subject.

Weinberg and Salam may be able to answer the questions about Electroweak....
Yes, those are other subjects about physics.

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