The Total Lunar Tetrads Tell Us When Jesus Returns

[lvdyou]

Jesus was cursing the fig tree for having no leaves representing Israel for having no life after all He has done for them. In Matt. 24.33 Jesus says His return is "very near" after Israel becomes a nation again, branches beginning to bud (v.32), so within a lifetime of 75 years (Ps. 90.10) from 1948. No later than 2023! The 7-year Tribulation can't start any later than 2016. Jesus said the disciples could not know when He returns prior to Israel a nation again.

We are also told to look for signs in the cosmos for when the Tribulation starts. In the 6th seal, Rev. 6.12 (cf. Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20) says 3 things must occur before the Tribulation starts since the 7th seal opens up the very loud 7 trumpets of the Tribulation. The first rapture according to readiness (Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36) is "before the throne" (7.9) in 3rd heaven before the 1st trumpet (8.7) commences the Tribulation. The resurrection is at the start of the last trumpet (11.15) which is the harvest (14.14-16) to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4.14-18).

"When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood"(Rev. 6.12).

First, a great earthquake! The second greatest number of deaths occurred in Haiti 2010 and the most per capita, 1 in 27 people. The 4th or 5th greatest in magnitude occurred in Japan 2011 and was the greatest financial loss. Never before in history have two earthquakes of such massive proportions occurred back to back, year over year.

Second, a black sackcloth solar eclipse! There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid occurring about 5% of the time. There are 3 kinds of Hybrids, the rarest being the H3 about 5% of the time which finishes off as a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. The 4th long H3 since Christ is Nov. 3, 2013. It won't happen again till 2172.

Third, a red blood moon lunar eclipse! The rarest kind of lunar eclipse is the lunar tetrad. A tetrad is when there are 4 red blood moon total eclipses in a row. And it is even rarer when it lands on passover, tabernacles, and again on passover and tabernacles. Passover is the first of Israel's seven feasts representing atonement. And Tabernacles is the last feast pointing to the future millennial kingdom. The 6th Total Lunar Tetrad since Christ was 1949/50. Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and signed the Armistice treaties in 1949. The 7th feast Tetrad was 1967/68. Israel took over Jerusalem June 7, 1967. This is the first time in history two feast Tetrads were this close 18 years apart. The 8th Tetrad is 2014/15 and won't happen again for nearly 600 years, 2582/83. There is no unique solar eclipse next to that Tetrad way off into the future. As a double fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy, it would take seven sets of seven years from the declaration to rebuild the Temple for it to be completed. This is 17,640 days or 360 days/yr x 7 sets of 7 years (Dan. 9.25). From June 7, 1967 to Sept. 23, 2015 is also 17,460 days. This day happens to be the Day of Atonement which is 10 days after the first rapture Feast of Trumpets.

Considering these undeniable facts, the Tribulation can't start before 2015 either. Next, we need a 2,520 day period for the Tribulation since all of Daniel's sixty-nine sevens are 2,520 days each. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers 2 to 10 as Daniel's basic working prophetic unit. This is triply confirmed since Jesus was "cut off" (Dan. 9.26) after 69 sets of seven years or 173,880 days from the declaration to rebuild the temple Nisan 1, 444 BC (Neh. 2.1). This takes us to Nisan 10, Monday, Mar. 28, 33 AD (Gregorian), the day Jesus entered Jerusalem-the first day of the four day inspection of the lamb. The 4 day inspection was Mar. 28, 29, 30, 31. Jesus was captured on Thursday, Mar. 31 then He died on the cross Nisan 14, Passover, Friday, April 1, 33 AD what Satan calls April Fool's Day. The first 4 feasts refer to atonement, Jesus set apart for three days, His resurrection, and giving the Holy Spirit. Since the last 3 feasts pertain to Jesus' second coming (rapture, salvation, millennium) and the first of those feasts deals with the first rapture (Rev. 7.9), the 2,520 day period must count down from Feast of Trumpets. There is no holiday on the 2,520th day in 2023 from Feast of Trumpets in 2016.

The 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 takes us to Sunday Aug. 7, 2022. Yet I could find no holiday on that day either until I realized when Tisha B'Av falls on a Saturday it is held the day after instead. So is the case in 2022. Tisha B'Av was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. This is of great significance because Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple (2 Thess. 2.4, Rev. 11.2) for 1000 years (20.2-7) over the nations with His overcomers (2.26, 20.4-6) and a rod of iron (12.5). He returns with 10,000 of His overcomers (Jude 14,15)-the 5 wise virgins (Matt. 25.1-13). The 5 unwise virgins though saved and have eternal life which can never be lost (John 10.28) would not be included in the first rapture nor the return to reign during the 1000 years. They would be resurrected at last trumpet. This is accountability for Christians to "overcometh" mentioned 7 times in Rev. 2 & 3. Christians all overcome but not at the same time. Many Christians prefer to be tied down to the world like a balloon unwilling to be released so they shall lose this reward by being cast into outer darkness, outside the light of reward of reigning with Christ during the millennium.

Outer darkness is like being in the forest and seeing a beautifully lit cabin but not allowed to enter it until the occupants come out to take them to the mansion. Or it is like painting a house, but if you are sloppy with the paint getting it all over yourself, you will need to remove it with some solvent like gasoline which stings before you can enter the shower.

The polling system is messed up. It excluded my 5th option of "Possibly < 50%"

[Mithrae]

It amuses me when Biblical literalist claim the end is near.

Here is my literalist biblical proof that the end is NOT near:

"I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed," - Genesis 26:4

Stars in the sky = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEM75BS1VED_extreme_0.html

Just popped 'sky definition' into Google, and the top three results say:

• Noun:
  The region of the atmosphere and outer space seen from the earth
  
  
  www.thefreedictionary.com/sky
  The expanse of air over any given point on the earth; the upper atmosphere as seen from the earth's surface. 2. The appearance of the upper atmosphere, ...
  
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky
  The sky is the part of the atmosphere or outer space visible from the surface of any astronomical object. It is difficult to define precisely for several reasons. ...

Seems your 'literalism' needs a little work. A few thousand years should do it. That or your English. Just sayin'...

[Paradigm]

It amuses me when Biblical literalist claim the end is near.

Here is my literalist biblical proof that the end is NOT near:

"I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed," - Genesis 26:4

Stars in the sky = 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEM75BS1VED_extreme_0.html

Just popped 'sky definition' into Google, and the top three results say:

• Noun:
  The region of the atmosphere and outer space seen from the earth
  
  
  www.thefreedictionary.com/sky
  The expanse of air over any given point on the earth; the upper atmosphere as seen from the earth's surface. 2. The appearance of the upper atmosphere, ...
  
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky
  The sky is the part of the atmosphere or outer space visible from the surface of any astronomical object. It is difficult to define precisely for several reasons. ...

Seems your 'literalism' needs a little work. A few thousand years should do it. That or your English. Just sayin'...

Your garden variety literalist understands that the Pentateuch was written in Hebrew, not English.

Try popping 'shamayim definition' into Google instead and see what you get.

[Mithrae]

• Shamayim (×�‎שמי‎ literally "sky" in Hebrew), "the heights", was an important concept in the religions and...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamayim
  
  
  dictionary.babylon.com/shamayim/
  Shamayim (Hebrew) Shemayim (Chaldean) Dual of "the heavens"; in the Qabbalah, the celestial world of the stars, sun, planets, and moon. "The real meaning ...
  
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_(Judaism)
  Shamayim comes from shameh, a root meaning to be lofty. It literally means the sky. "Shamayim" is a crucial concept in the Bible. There are at least three ...

So sky then?

What point are you trying to make here?

[lvdyou]

It amuses me when Biblical literalist claim the end is near.

It amuses me when you think Christians claim the end is near. The end is not near, but the beginning is near, that is, Jesus steps down Aug. 7, 2022 and reigns on earth for 1000 years.

Praise the Lord!

[Goat]

Actually we know all these things have happened or will happen indicating when Jesus steps down on the mount of olives.

It wouldn't make sense for me to bet you if I am first raptured Sept. 14, 2015 on Feast of Trumpets since I will have no use of the winnings. Plus I can get a better return on my investment than a 100% return in about 5 years since I have an exceptional way of making money off my bankroll.

You're too small time for me.

Then you can have the winnings in the charity of your choice... certainly there should be other souls to save!

Somehow, your claims seem hollow to me, and you don't want to put your money where your mouth is.

I'll give you 10 to 1 odds.

[Paradigm]

• Shamayim (×�‎שמי‎ literally "sky" in Hebrew), "the heights", was an important concept in the religions and...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamayim
  
  
  dictionary.babylon.com/shamayim/
  Shamayim (Hebrew) Shemayim (Chaldean) Dual of "the heavens"; in the Qabbalah, the celestial world of the stars, sun, planets, and moon. "The real meaning ...
  
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_(Judaism)
  Shamayim comes from shameh, a root meaning to be lofty. It literally means the sky. "Shamayim" is a crucial concept in the Bible. There are at least three ...

So sky then?

What point are you trying to make here?

There are three Heavens (Shamayim) in Hebrew lore, as I am sure you would know had you given more than a cursory glance at the results of your search. The first Heaven is is the Earth's atmosphere where birds fly and clouds form. The second is the celestial heaven, where the sun, moon and stars and other celestial bodies abide, a.k.a outer space. The third Heaven is the dwelling place of God Himself.

Since God promised Abraham as many descendants as there were stars in the heavens it is clear that He is referring to the second Heaven. The second Heaven contains 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars.

Ergo, the prophecy is not yet fulfilled.

Shamayim is the same word found in Genesis 1:1 to describe the heavens, so clearly when we talk about all the stars in shamayim, we are talking about all the stars in creation.

[McCulloch]

Except it hasn't happened yet... and I will be more than willing to put money in a third party escrow account as a bet with you that it won't... where the third party determines if the 'prophecy happened.

To make this wager attractive to lvdyou, Goat would have to provide him with a sum of money or other asset that he could make use before the time of the rapture, and lvdyou would have to provide some assurance that in the event that the rapture did not occur, Goat would be paid.

We are only concerned with tetrads that fall on passover, tabernacles, and again on passover and tabernacles. The one in 1949/50 was the 6th since Christ. The one 1967/68 is the 7th since Christ, and the 8th since Christ will be 2014/15. It won't happen again 2582/83.

So, why are you not calling for the rapture to happen in 2582?

It amuses me when Biblical literalist claim the end is near.

It amuses me when you think Christians claim the end is near. The end is not near, but the beginning is near, that is, Jesus steps down Aug. 7, 2022 and reigns on earth for 1000 years.

Praise the Lord!

Yes, isn't he just wonderful. According to the literalist accounts, God did not reign on earth for 4000 years. Then he comes for a quick visit (thirty-something years), to announce his impending rule then is away for more than 2000 more years. But a wonderful thing is about to happen, after more than 6000 years of godlessness, we are to be treated to a mere 1000 years of God's direct rule. What a let down!

[Mithrae]

• Shamayim (×�‎שמי‎ literally "sky" in Hebrew), "the heights", was an important concept in the religions and...
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamayim
  
  
  dictionary.babylon.com/shamayim/
  Shamayim (Hebrew) Shemayim (Chaldean) Dual of "the heavens"; in the Qabbalah, the celestial world of the stars, sun, planets, and moon. "The real meaning ...
  
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_(Judaism)
  Shamayim comes from shameh, a root meaning to be lofty. It literally means the sky. "Shamayim" is a crucial concept in the Bible. There are at least three ...

So sky then?

What point are you trying to make here?

There are three Heavens (Shamayim) in Hebrew lore, as I am sure you would know had you given more than a cursory glance at the results of your search. The first Heaven is is the Earth's atmosphere where birds fly and clouds form. The second is the celestial heaven, where the sun, moon and stars and other celestial bodies abide, a.k.a outer space. The third Heaven is the dwelling place of God Himself.

Since God promised Abraham as many descendants as there were stars in the heavens it is clear that He is referring to the second Heaven. The second Heaven contains 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars.

Ergo, the prophecy is not yet fulfilled.

Shamayim is the same word found in Genesis 1:1 to describe the heavens, so clearly when we talk about all the stars in shamayim, we are talking about all the stars in creation.

Aye, I've come across that notion before. But you're the one proposing a novel 'literalist' interpretation of the verse, in which circumstance it's customary to supply your own evidence. Instead all you suggested was popping shamayim into Google. So following a consistent approach with my last post, lo and behold; apparently shamayim literally means 'sky.'

Now you instead propose an extended understanding of the word God used in his promise to Isaac, beyond the literal meaning. You understand that we can't just take your word for it that Isaac believed this, of course; could you provide a reference where we can confirm information regarding this 'three heavens' notion in Isaac's time (c2000-1700 BCE)?

[lvdyou]

It's really quite elementary. Since Jesus returns within a lifetime of Israel a nation again then the Trib is no later than 2016-2023. And since the Rev. 6.12 is 2010-15 then Trib can't start before 2015. There are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 and no 2,520 day period for 2016-23.

[postroad]

I suppose that Christ will wait till the absolute last minute to "appear" and then it will be an "invisible" "spiritual" appearance?