Are there any here?

[Allahakbar]

Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?

[dianaiad]

Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?

Of course not.

....and why would that even be a good thing?

Because people claim it to be the word of god, how can the word of god be misinterpreted unless god meant it to be, but more importantly all are being informed of the interpretation by god through the holy ghost allegedly. Even you who claim it "contains" the word of god have disagreements over interpretation with others over a passage that you believe is the word of god.

Sure. I could be the one who is wrong, too. That comes with the 'free will' thing, and the fact that we are still learning. Nobody expects students to be perfect.

God is guiding the true believer in the interpretation of his divine word and every true believer believes something different. Do see any anomalies in that?

Nope, not really.

Try this:

You have in front of you two pieces of candy. One is a chocolate bar crammed full of peanuts and raisins. Another is a piece of peanut brittle.

Now YOU are looking for the one, the TRUE, peanut candy. So you stumble over the peanut brittle, check to see if it has peanuts in it...yep, there they are. So you grab it and run with the whole thing, 'brittle' and all, shouting how this is the ONE TRUE PEANUT CANDY, that it IS PEANUT.

Meanwhile, your neighbor has found the chocolate bar, found the peanut in THAT, and is now shouting that IT is the ONE, TRUE, PEANUT CANDY, and IS PEANUT.

Neither one of you has realized that yeah, you both found the nut...but you have, in assuring yourself that it is indeed the true nut, you have wrapped the brittle and the sweet around the nut and hauled it along with this kernel of true nut. Both are nuts....but you might not be quite right about the stuff wrapped around it.

Diana,
Tongue firmly in cheek, preferring, herself, the chocolate without the nuts.

Which one of us was being guided by the holy ghost and which peanut is really god? Because Abduls peanut wasn't the true peanut, he was misled it was a cashew. It was the holy ghost who led both of us and only one of us got it right except upon further examination I found my nut to be a pecan. We were both deceived by the holy ghost.

this is why I usually try to avoid telling jokes. I'm no good at it and having to explain the point when one falls flat just makes things go splat.

Ah, well.

[Allahakbar]

Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?

Of course not.

....and why would that even be a good thing?

Because people claim it to be the word of god, how can the word of god be misinterpreted unless god meant it to be, but more importantly all are being informed of the interpretation by god through the holy ghost allegedly. Even you who claim it "contains" the word of god have disagreements over interpretation with others over a passage that you believe is the word of god.

Sure. I could be the one who is wrong, too. That comes with the 'free will' thing, and the fact that we are still learning. Nobody expects students to be perfect.

God is guiding the true believer in the interpretation of his divine word and every true believer believes something different. Do see any anomalies in that?

Nope, not really.

Try this:

You have in front of you two pieces of candy. One is a chocolate bar crammed full of peanuts and raisins. Another is a piece of peanut brittle.

Now YOU are looking for the one, the TRUE, peanut candy. So you stumble over the peanut brittle, check to see if it has peanuts in it...yep, there they are. So you grab it and run with the whole thing, 'brittle' and all, shouting how this is the ONE TRUE PEANUT CANDY, that it IS PEANUT.

Meanwhile, your neighbor has found the chocolate bar, found the peanut in THAT, and is now shouting that IT is the ONE, TRUE, PEANUT CANDY, and IS PEANUT.

Neither one of you has realized that yeah, you both found the nut...but you have, in assuring yourself that it is indeed the true nut, you have wrapped the brittle and the sweet around the nut and hauled it along with this kernel of true nut. Both are nuts....but you might not be quite right about the stuff wrapped around it.

Diana,
Tongue firmly in cheek, preferring, herself, the chocolate without the nuts.

Which one of us was being guided by the holy ghost and which peanut is really god? Because Abduls peanut wasn't the true peanut, he was misled it was a cashew. It was the holy ghost who led both of us and only one of us got it right except upon further examination I found my nut to be a pecan. We were both deceived by the holy ghost.

this is why I usually try to avoid telling jokes. I'm no good at it and having to explain the point when one falls flat just makes things go splat.

Ah, well.

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

[dianaiad]

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Two things:

If God didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't have duck billed platypusses, and if we weren't supposed to have one and enjoy His, then we wouldn't have one and enjoy His.

Of course, my own sense of humor is more along the lines of appreciation than performance for the appreciation of others, but since I do know my own limits there most of the time, we all manage to toddle along OK.

[Clownboat]

Christians don't depend upon proof for their convictions so as to be in total and complete harmony with each other, they depend upon faith, the base of their HOPE in unproven things, Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is substance in what we hope for and conviction about what we do not see.

Faith has the unique quality to fine tune every person's decisions about reality, what they HOPE the truth about GOD and salvation really is. Just as every person's hopes are slightly different so is their faith. Once your faith is established, it becomes the filter for all later decisions about the meaning of both reality and scripture.

Thus in a faith based system exact congruity of belief is never going to happen. May I remind that even in the 'exact' disciplines of math and science there is often no exactitude of agreement?

Peace, Ted

Faith, leads to religious beliefs. Faith does not only lead to Christianity.
Therefore, to trust in faith would be foolish.

Why?
Because if you are capable of faith, you can take that faith and apply it to any religion of your choosing.
Faith leads to all sorts of beliefs. These beliefs cannot all be correct, therefore, use faith at your own folly. Please don't expect others to follow suite though.

[Allahakbar]

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Two things:

If God didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't have duck billed platypusses, and if we weren't supposed to have one and enjoy His, then we wouldn't have one and enjoy His.

Of course, my own sense of humor is more along the lines of appreciation than performance for the appreciation of others, but since I do know my own limits there most of the time, we all manage to toddle along OK.

Especially when the platypus and the echidna prove evolution all by themselves. Look it up!

[dianaiad]

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Two things:

If God didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't have duck billed platypusses, and if we weren't supposed to have one and enjoy His, then we wouldn't have one and enjoy His.

Of course, my own sense of humor is more along the lines of appreciation than performance for the appreciation of others, but since I do know my own limits there most of the time, we all manage to toddle along OK.

Especially when the platypus and the echidna prove evolution all by themselves. Look it up!

I suppose it does.

your point?

[Filthy Tugboat]

Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?

Are there any two people anywhere who's interpretation of the words of any book (fiction or other) are identical?

I've never read Harry Potter, but I'm willing to bet there are more people on the planet who have identical understandings of those books than there are people who have identical understandings of the bible, cos that number seems to be zero.

How do you want to bet? How do you plan to demonstrate that you are correct on the matter?

The very fact that different people are reading it necessitates that a different interpretation will be read. We will imagine different characters out of the same descriptions. We will relate differently to the characters in the story. I've read that series a few times and each time I interpreted it differently. I can't stress enough that you don't know what you're talking about regarding subjective interpretation.

[Allahakbar]

Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?

Are there any two people anywhere who's interpretation of the words of any book (fiction or other) are identical?

I've never read Harry Potter, but I'm willing to bet there are more people on the planet who have identical understandings of those books than there are people who have identical understandings of the bible, cos that number seems to be zero.

How do you want to bet? How do you plan to demonstrate that you are correct on the matter?

The very fact that different people are reading it necessitates that a different interpretation will be read. We will imagine different characters out of the same descriptions. We will relate differently to the characters in the story. I've read that series a few times and each time I interpreted it differently. I can't stress enough that you don't know what you're talking about regarding subjective interpretation.

There is no such thing as subjective interpretation when discussing the believers knowledge of the bible. The holy ghost interprets the word of god for the true believer to understand, there is no subjectivity involved. All understanding of the true believer comes from the holy ghost and yet all of the true believers believe something different. That must mean that the holy ghost doesn't understand the word of god.

[Allahakbar]

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Two things:

If God didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't have duck billed platypusses, and if we weren't supposed to have one and enjoy His, then we wouldn't have one and enjoy His.

Of course, my own sense of humor is more along the lines of appreciation than performance for the appreciation of others, but since I do know my own limits there most of the time, we all manage to toddle along OK.

Especially when the platypus and the echidna prove evolution all by themselves. Look it up!

I suppose it does.

your point?

Well you claimed that god demonstrated his sense of humour by creating the platypus when the platypus is undeniably a result of evolution and not a god's creation.
Hence the platypus doesn't demonstrate gods sense of humour at all. Just sayin'

[dianaiad]

I'm sorry diana I didn't think you were the type to joke about gods divine guidance. I'll keep it in mind for the future.

Two things:

If God didn't have a sense of humor, we wouldn't have duck billed platypusses, and if we weren't supposed to have one and enjoy His, then we wouldn't have one and enjoy His.

Of course, my own sense of humor is more along the lines of appreciation than performance for the appreciation of others, but since I do know my own limits there most of the time, we all manage to toddle along OK.

Especially when the platypus and the echidna prove evolution all by themselves. Look it up!

I suppose it does.

your point?

Well you claimed that god demonstrated his sense of humour by creating the platypus when the platypus is undeniably a result of evolution and not a god's creation.
Hence the platypus doesn't demonstrate gods sense of humour at all. Just sayin'

It does if evolution is how 'God did it."

Perhaps it's not so much that the platypus was a deliberate creation, as it is that it is simply weird and God, enjoying the idea of a funny looking poisonous egg laying mammal with a duck bill and flippers, didn't micromanage it out. If WE find the thing funny, and we are created in His image, it's not too big a stretch to think that He probably does, too.

IMO, of course.