Which should you hate?

[connermt]

Every one hated someone or something at one point. Otherwise, you're not human.
Now that only humans are still reading:

Which should you hate? The religious individual that performs actions that are negative towards you and/or other, or the religion that they practice?

While it may seem a harsh concept to discuss, the object here isn't to point to an individual, but the actions of the individuals or the belief system that teaches these people to do these negative things.
Basically, should you hate the person or the thing that teaches the person?

[Clownboat]

The fact that millions of people claim to have personal evidence for all sorts of different god concepts has nothing at all to do with my faith in God and Christianity, except for this. Millions of people believing that they have personal evidence for the existence of God confirms my own experience.

Perhaps you will never get this.
Millions of people believing that they have had personal evidence (whatever personal evidence is!) for the existence of all sorts of different god concepts can in no way logically confirm your own experience.

This would be like believing in Bigfoot because other people believe in leprechauns.


If this really works for you, then great. I would only advise not being so proud of it.

[Sonofason]

Well, I can't say that I put my faith in scientific studies, but if the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press can be trusted, about

"half of Americans (49%) say they have had a religious or mystical experience " that is, a moment of religious or spiritual awakening.

You are dishonestly misrepresenting what it says there, which does not say anything about talking with God. It even describes later on in the article what is defined by those experiences...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

So you tell me, does half the population of America add up to more than a million? Does it add up to millions of people? I don't know. You decide. Do millions of people claim to experience God? Is having a religious experience count as experiencing God? You decide for yourself. I've already made my decision.

Actually, I'm referring to all claims by all people who have claimed to have experienced God.

Yes, you have made your decision, dishonestly. How very sad you've had to fabricate this in order to defend yourself.

These statistics are suggesting that one out of every two people have religious experiences. What if we were to say, that only 1 in a thousand people have had religious experiences. That would still be 7 million people having religious experiences. And that doesn't even include the religious experiences of people who have died. How many people have died? Oh well, no sense speculating any further. I'm perfectly content knowing that I'm right about this. Millions of people claim to have experienced God. And so have I.

Ah, I see you have dishonestly ignored the very article you have linked that defines those experiences, allow me to post it one more time so you can ignore it one more time and continue to dishonestly make false claims...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

Fair enough. I thought 49% of people having similar claims might suffice, especially since less than .1 percent of the population of the world having experiences of God would make my statement true. I'll dig deeper, and try to find you the millions I said exist that I'm absolutely positive exist.

[A Troubled Man]

Well, I can't say that I put my faith in scientific studies, but if the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press can be trusted, about

"half of Americans (49%) say they have had a religious or mystical experience " that is, a moment of religious or spiritual awakening.

You are dishonestly misrepresenting what it says there, which does not say anything about talking with God. It even describes later on in the article what is defined by those experiences...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

So you tell me, does half the population of America add up to more than a million? Does it add up to millions of people? I don't know. You decide. Do millions of people claim to experience God? Is having a religious experience count as experiencing God? You decide for yourself. I've already made my decision.

Actually, I'm referring to all claims by all people who have claimed to have experienced God.

Yes, you have made your decision, dishonestly. How very sad you've had to fabricate this in order to defend yourself.

These statistics are suggesting that one out of every two people have religious experiences. What if we were to say, that only 1 in a thousand people have had religious experiences. That would still be 7 million people having religious experiences. And that doesn't even include the religious experiences of people who have died. How many people have died? Oh well, no sense speculating any further. I'm perfectly content knowing that I'm right about this. Millions of people claim to have experienced God. And so have I.

Ah, I see you have dishonestly ignored the very article you have linked that defines those experiences, allow me to post it one more time so you can ignore it one more time and continue to dishonestly make false claims...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

Fair enough. I thought 49% of people having similar claims might suffice, especially since less than .1 percent of the population of the world having experiences of God would make my statement true. I'll dig deeper, and try to find you the millions I said exist that I'm absolutely positive exist.

Sorry, but when someone claims they've had a ghostly encounter or have contacted a psychic, that does not equate to talking with God, which is your claim. People who openly claim they talk with God are usually alienated and thought of as having a mental disorder.

Try using it as a defense in court and see what happens. The judge would have you taken away for psychiatric examination.

[Sonofason]

Well, I can't say that I put my faith in scientific studies, but if the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press can be trusted, about

"half of Americans (49%) say they have had a religious or mystical experience " that is, a moment of religious or spiritual awakening.

You are dishonestly misrepresenting what it says there, which does not say anything about talking with God. It even describes later on in the article what is defined by those experiences...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

So you tell me, does half the population of America add up to more than a million? Does it add up to millions of people? I don't know. You decide. Do millions of people claim to experience God? Is having a religious experience count as experiencing God? You decide for yourself. I've already made my decision.

Actually, I'm referring to all claims by all people who have claimed to have experienced God.

Yes, you have made your decision, dishonestly. How very sad you've had to fabricate this in order to defend yourself.

These statistics are suggesting that one out of every two people have religious experiences. What if we were to say, that only 1 in a thousand people have had religious experiences. That would still be 7 million people having religious experiences. And that doesn't even include the religious experiences of people who have died. How many people have died? Oh well, no sense speculating any further. I'm perfectly content knowing that I'm right about this. Millions of people claim to have experienced God. And so have I.

Ah, I see you have dishonestly ignored the very article you have linked that defines those experiences, allow me to post it one more time so you can ignore it one more time and continue to dishonestly make false claims...

"(belief in reincarnation, belief in spiritual energy located in physical things, belief in yoga as spiritual practice, belief in the evil eye, belief in astrology, having been in touch with the dead, consulting a psychic, or experiencing a ghostly encounter)."

Fair enough. I thought 49% of people having similar claims might suffice, especially since less than .1 percent of the population of the world having experiences of God would make my statement true. I'll dig deeper, and try to find you the millions I said exist that I'm absolutely positive exist.

Sorry, but when someone claims they've had a ghostly encounter or have contacted a psychic, that does not equate to talking with God, which is your claim. People who openly claim they talk with God are usually alienated and thought of as having a mental disorder.

Try using it as a defense in court and see what happens. The judge would have you taken away for psychiatric examination.

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

[A Troubled Man]

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

Fine, you don't talk to God, then. Isn't that what I've been saying, too?

[otseng]

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

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[Sonofason]

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

Fine, you don't talk to God, then. Isn't that what I've been saying, too?

You are mistaken. I never said I don't talk to God. I do. I said I don't talk with God.

[JoeyKnothead]

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

Fine, you don't talk to God, then. Isn't that what I've been saying, too?

You are mistaken. I never said I don't talk to God. I do. I said I don't talk with God.

Awful hard to talk with something that ain't there to do it some talking back.

[A Troubled Man]

You are mistaken. I never said I don't talk to God. I do. I said I don't talk with God.

Oh, I see, you took the opportunity to call me a liar because of semantics.

[Sonofason]

You are a blatant liar. I never once wrote on this site that I talk with God. I have never said to anyone ever that I've talked with God. Kick me off this site for telling the truth. But you lie, and I'm letting everyone know. If I were you, I'd stick to the facts. You're logic is flimsy, I know, but lying is no better a course. Fix it!!

Fine, you don't talk to God, then. Isn't that what I've been saying, too?

You are mistaken. I never said I don't talk to God. I do. I said I don't talk with God.

Awful hard to talk with something that ain't there to do it some talking back.

I don't know. I never tried to talk with anything that wasn't there.