There is no secular or theological challenge to be made that a "Christian marriage" isn't immutably a man and woman/husband and wife. Therefore, it should be a criminal act under current hate crimes laws, to accuse a Christian of hate, bigotry, or irrational . . ., if they assert the immutability of the structure of marriage as man and woman/husband and wife.
As Jesus proclaimed it in the Gospels and the writings reaffirm and define it so.
Why would anyone, religious or secularist, NOT support and affirm Christians adhering to the consistent and immutable Biblical teaching that a marriage is a man/husband and woman/wife?
Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.
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Post #681But, didn't you say you don't talk to God? Didn't you even call me a liar for mentioning that?Sonofason wrote:
I'm not really sure. But when I see him, I'll try to remember to ask.
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Post #682Indeed, I think we should clarify, someone is a Christian if they identify themselves as a follower of Christ. What it means to "follow Christ" is completely subjective and based on interpretation, as well as personal experience. Just because you disagree does not mean that someone who identifies themselves as a follower of Christ becomes any less of a Christian. It's not your decision to make, it's personal to them and them alone. How they justify their sexuality, their beliefs, their actions with what they consider to be "Christ's teachings" is a ball in their court.Sonofason wrote:Your opinion is interesting, but incorrect. You must understand that a Christian is a follower of Christ. You cannot say that you are following Christ if what you do is contradict and oppose the teachings of Christ.Filthy Tugboat wrote:"A Christian marriage" seems to me to mean, "a marriage between people who label themselves as Christians." If these Christians are both men, I don't see a problem.Sonofason wrote: Please note the statement that was made, and who the statement pertains to. We are here talking about "Christian marriage." A "Christian marriage" with no doubt is a marriage that takes place immutably between a man and a woman, a husband and a wife. There is no other "Christian marriage."
Religion feels to me a little like a Nigerian Prince scam. The "offer" is illegitimate, the "request" is unreasonable and the source is dubious, in fact, Nigeria doesn't even have a royal family.
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Post #683What is it that constitutes a christian marriage between an adult male and an adult female? What EXACTLY makes it a CHRISTIAN marriage?
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Post #684Due to the fact that no version of Christianity can show that it is superior to any of the others, I would say:10CC wrote: What is it that constitutes a christian marriage between an adult male and an adult female? What EXACTLY makes it a CHRISTIAN marriage?
"Any married adults that identify themselves as Christians". = Christian marriage.
Of course, it seems there is no shortage of Christians that feel they have it right and that the other Christians that don't agree with them have it wrong.
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Sonofason wrote: Actually, if you could refrain from lying for just a moment, you'd see, that I have said I am no judge.
Your soul is in a grave state, all this lying is not good for you.
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Post #686The writers of the New Testament though for sure that some people would be right and some people would be wrong.Clownboat wrote:Due to the fact that no version of Christianity can show that it is superior to any of the others, I would say:10CC wrote: What is it that constitutes a christian marriage between an adult male and an adult female? What EXACTLY makes it a CHRISTIAN marriage?
"Any married adults that identify themselves as Christians". = Christian marriage.
Of course, it seems there is no shortage of Christians that feel they have it right and that the other Christians that don't agree with them have it wrong.
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And don't it beat all, they were the ones that were wrong.99percentatheism wrote: The writers of the New Testament thought for sure that some people would be right and some people would be wrong.
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And hundreds of millions of Christians believe that you are wrong about that.JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 685:
And don't it beat all, they were the ones that were wrong.99percentatheism wrote: The writers of the New Testament thought for sure that some people would be right and some people would be wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to totalitarianism.
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Let me see. You demand that all gay activity should be forbidden. Then you criticize the people who want equal rights for totalitarianism.99percentatheism wrote:And hundreds of millions of Christians believe that you are wrong about that.JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 685:
And don't it beat all, they were the ones that were wrong.99percentatheism wrote: The writers of the New Testament thought for sure that some people would be right and some people would be wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to totalitarianism.
There seems to be something wrong with that picture.
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Please provide an example of where I "Demand that all gay activity should be forgiven?"Goat wrote:Let me see. You demand that all gay activity should be forbidden. Then you criticize the people who want equal rights for totalitarianism.99percentatheism wrote:And hundreds of millions of Christians believe that you are wrong about that.JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 685:
And don't it beat all, they were the ones that were wrong.99percentatheism wrote: The writers of the New Testament thought for sure that some people would be right and some people would be wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to totalitarianism.
There seems to be something wrong with that picture.
I am the author of the Gay Denomination thread that has over 80,000 views. I couldn't care any less than I do about people engaging in homosexuality in the godless and secular world and worldview. They can do as they wilteth.
You're barking at the wrong Christian.
Please apologize and move on to try to bash someone else.
