Eclipses

[Ooberman]

How do Creationists explain eclipses? There is no evidence that we can see at any given moment (we, the people without telescopes), and we only know about them because of scientists - who have developed a consensus on the motion of the planets.

Let's put Evolution aside. How can scientists make accurate predictions of eclipses, yet, Creationists claim we can't use the regularity of nature to posit evolution?

[Bust Nak]

That's my point.

That cannot be you point because if that was your point, you wouldn't be saying we are siphoning things out.

It's more like:
Is X something we can see/touch?
If X is something we can see/touch:
[Does X have Y natural features and Z supernatural features?
If X has Y features and no Z features then there is no siphoning.
If X has Y features and Z features then Z features are siphoned out.]
If X is not something we can see/touch:
[X has Z features and no Y features.
X is ignored.]

It's nothing like that, it cannot be anything like that because there are no such thing as Z. There are also nothing that has no Y features. Such concepts is incoherent under materialism. It's like accusing mathematicians of ignoring square circles.

Does it make sense to accuse people of ignoring impossible shape?
Is X possible shape?
If X is a possible shape:
[Does X have Y logical feature and Z circular straght edges?
If X has Y features and no Z features then there is no siphoning.
If X has Y features and Z features then Z features are siphoned out.]
If X is a square circle:
[X has Z features and no Y features. X is ignored.]
Becuase that's what you are really saying. How close minded are we to siphon square circles out of mathematics.

[connermt]

But I have not seen species really turning to other species as the evolution theory claims. (And in this I mean really turning to other species, not just changing color, or some other minor change).

That's because it doesn't exist. Bacteria is always bacteria. A bird doesn't give birth to a rabbit.
Animals adapt, they NEVER evolve.

Proof you know nothing about evolution. Birds don't turn into rabbits
omg....
They came from a common ancestor.
Evolution is change OVER TIME. It's not magic like when god created EVERYTHING is <7 days.
What doesn't exist? A reality of god outside your imagination.
Wha....?
How do I know this?
I can point to actual fossil evidence as proof of evidence.
You can point to a book, written by imperfect men, to 'prove' your god.
I can give you evidence you can hold in your hands to show the story of evolution. You can believe whatever you want, but when you die and anxious await a glorious redemption of a savior in a existance where there is no redeemer, you will finally see the truth. Fortunately, time will continue and that may give you enough time to understand. Maybe.
You can not give me anything of god that I can hold in my hands.
Your god is in you imagination - I think South Park called it Imaginationland
If I want to see your god, I'll go there. If you want to see the truth....wait a minute - never mind. You're content in the world of myth and magic.

[sizzle-d]

[Replying to post 52 by connermt]

I sincerely don't care about YOUR opinion that has anything to do with proof. You can talk about evolution but it may be something else to you so it's YOUR opinion.

[sizzle-d]

It's like accusing mathematicians of ignoring square circles.

Is that how it seems? Hmm. . .
Didn't you say scientists are materialists and that they only consider things that can be explained naturally?

[connermt]

[Replying to post 53 by sizzle-d]

I sincerely don't care about...anything to do with proof.

That goes without saying.....
Sometimes people can't deal with reality and create their own. That's fine, so long as they don't visit it on others OR look down their noses at others who refuse to live in this made-up reality

[sizzle-d]

[Replying to post 53 by sizzle-d]

I sincerely don't care about...anything to do with proof.

That goes without saying.....

You had to edit my post to suit you. How sad.

Sometimes people can't deal with reality . . .

you seem to be far from it.

[Bust Nak]

It's like accusing mathematicians of ignoring square circles.

Is that how it seems? Hmm. . .
Didn't you say scientists are materialists and that they only consider things that can be explained naturally?

In the same way I say mathematicians are logicians and that they only consider shapes that are not square circles.

[FarWanderer]

But I have not seen species really turning to other species as the evolution theory claims. (And in this I mean really turning to other species, not just changing color, or some other minor change).

Bacteria is always bacteria.

Score!

A bird doesn't give birth to a rabbit.

Score!

Animals adapt, they NEVER evolve.

Let's be honest, 2 out of 3 is pretty good for you.

You are making a contraction.
If bacteria is always bacteria then how do you explain that sci-fi story of evolution.

How, exactly, does evolution supposedly violate the law of identity?

[connermt]

[Replying to post 56 by sizzle-d]

You had to edit my post to suit you. How sad.

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The quoting was done so correctly and in keeping with the same theme.
Don't like it? Seems an issue for you to work through.
Personal attack noted, though it doesn't change the fact as I stated it.

[dianaiad]

[Replying to post 53 by sizzle-d]

I sincerely don't care about...anything to do with proof.

That goes without saying.....

You had to edit my post to suit you. How sad.

Sometimes people can't deal with reality . . .

you seem to be far from it.

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