What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

[Wordleymaster1]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

I read the bible & it's rediculous as a book of any ultimate creator-god.
Other than that, I guess it could be a humerous take on the state of affairs of politics at the time.
Or poorly recycled stories from other religions.

I assure you it's a book of how someone tried to claim they were our creator, and got busted on the fact. What followed was punishments and torture, and we are what is left, in the way we are.

Like I said, ridiculous. No assurance is needed for that

[DanieltheDragon]

WOW have my eyes been opened.

Humans have super powers

the Grays abduct humans and are common household pests!

God has telekenesis and so do humans but through his psychosis gun removed our transmitors.

Sounds like an awesome comic book thanks for the idea!!!! This will be epic!!! a perfect blend of conspiracy theory and religious delusion!

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

I read the bible & it's rediculous as a book of any ultimate creator-god.
Other than that, I guess it could be a humerous take on the state of affairs of politics at the time.
Or poorly recycled stories from other religions.

I assure you it's a book of how someone tried to claim they were our creator, and got busted on the fact. What followed was punishments and torture, and we are what is left, in the way we are.

Like I said, ridiculous. No assurance is needed for that

I guess it's true then, people do mock what they don't understand.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 43 by mickeymudge]

It's not about not understanding it is this. If I know nothing and you come up to me and present me with a set of ideas. I ask this "why should I believe this set of ideas to be true?" and I get the following:

Because I said they are
You have to trust me
Because I believe it
You have to experience it
The government is trying to keep it a secret
You have to have faith
You just have to believe

etc.

I will simply discard it. How do you expect me or anyone to believe something is true without any evidence that it is so?

You could tell me the president drank coffee this morning and I would probably believe you whether it was true or not. Because the evidence is that coffee exists a president exists and culturally coffee is a popular morning drink among Americans so much so that franchises are built around specifically selling coffee.

The president drinking coffee in the morning is a reasonable claim.

The Gray's being paranormal entities abducting humans and god silencing our telekentic abilities and the sun not being really the sun of our solar system are some pretty wild claims THAT REQUIRE EVIDENCE.

The more extreme your claim is the more extreme your evidence needs to be. If you have actual evidence to prove that

a. Humans can receive telekentic transmissions
b. A god exists
c. Grays are a common pest that abduct humans
e. The sun is not the star of the solar system that the planet earth resides in

I would be happy to consider your wild claims. But you have not done that so your claims remain wild and ridiculous. So much so that it actually sounds like a really awesome sci-fi/fantasy story.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 43 by mickeymudge]

It's not about not understanding it is this. If I know nothing and you come up to me and present me with a set of ideas. I ask this "why should I believe this set of ideas to be true?" and I get the following:

Because I said they are
You have to trust me
Because I believe it
You have to experience it
The government is trying to keep it a secret
You have to have faith
You just have to believe

etc.

I will simply discard it. How do you expect me or anyone to believe something is true without any evidence that it is so?

You could tell me the president drank coffee this morning and I would probably believe you whether it was true or not. Because the evidence is that coffee exists a president exists and culturally coffee is a popular morning drink among Americans so much so that franchises are built around specifically selling coffee.

The president drinking coffee in the morning is a reasonable claim.

The Gray's being paranormal entities abducting humans and god silencing our telekentic abilities and the sun not being really the sun of our solar system are some pretty wild claims THAT REQUIRE EVIDENCE.

The more extreme your claim is the more extreme your evidence needs to be. If you have actual evidence to prove that

a. Humans can receive telekentic transmissions
b. A god exists
c. Grays are a common pest that abduct humans
e. The sun is not the star of the solar system that the planet earth resides in

I would be happy to consider your wild claims. But you have not done that so your claims remain wild and ridiculous. So much so that it actually sounds like a really awesome sci-fi/fantasy story.

It's not about not understanding it is this. If I know nothing and you come up to me and present me with a set of ideas. I ask this "why should I believe this set of ideas to be true?" and I get the following:

Because I said they are
You have to trust me
Because I believe it
You have to experience it
The government is trying to keep it a secret
You have to have faith
You just have to believe


Which is exactly why I never said anything of the sort. I don't believe anything. Doing so would imply I have an opinion, and while I do after the fact, I didn't going into finding what I did.
I never claimed things are such simply because I said so. Everything I have found is redundantly backed up, usually many times over.
You don't have to trust anyone, but you really should trust the facts. For example when there are over a dozen obvious facts that all prove that God was a space alien, you would look a little dim witted to try to refute it.
I don't know of anything the government is trying to keep a secrete, unless you're referring to the obvious tampering in our DNA. If you don't believe the Government lies to the public then you seriously shouldn't be on a forum.
You don't have to have any sort of faith. Faith implies belief, non of which I have. You don't just have to believe. I would never suggest or expect anyone to just believe anything in life. Certainly there is a difference between being skeptical and purposely avoiding the facts.

Perhaps this issues stems from you're lack of education in the field that the bible is prefaced, or warned, to be dealing with. The Supernatural. Maybe I can explain it better like this for you...

Lets pretend for the moment that you know absolutely nothing about math. Now lets pretend the bible is filled with instances of math, and I point out one to you that says four times four. Now lets say you try your best at trying to figure out what this is, or what it means, and of course you don't even come close to it's actual meaning. So later, I present you with what this answer of sixteen. You might say that's my opinion, or from the religion person, you might even say, that's my belief. When the fact is neither is correct. It's an understanding. I understand it, you don't. That doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Now I have gone through the trouble of decoding these findings for you since I couldn't possibly expect you to catch these things by yourself, and I have even backed that up with websites that prove those findings to be current with known alien activity. I'm sorry but I have provided you with the tools necessary to understand, it's up the individual if they refuse to do so.

I will simply discard it. How do you expect me or anyone to believe something is true without any evidence that it is so?


Well the evidence is both in reports from individuals today, as well as backed up by the bible. The bible in itself is a good source for information. It's a historical document of Supernatural events that occurred in the past. Some people choose to not accept the bible as a reliable source of information based on it not making sense. I'm sorry to have to keep repeating myself, but it's not going to make sense, when you or those that preach couldn't possibly understand it.

You could tell me the president drank coffee this morning and I would probably believe you whether it was true or not. Because the evidence is that coffee exists a president exists and culturally coffee is a popular morning drink among Americans so much so that franchises are built around specifically selling coffee.

Well what you're really saying here is that you're sure there is a president because you see him on TV and you hear about him all the time. When the fact is, that could all be staged to fool you. Now I'm not saying there are things intentionally in the bible to fool you, but if you don't understand them, they may as well not even exist, and this is exactly how you, the public, and religion views the misunderstood parts of the bible.

The president drinking coffee in the morning is a reasonable claim.

That's reasonable for YOUR understanding and willing limits of acceptance. What you are admitting to here is that you allow your opinion, or belief to supersede facts. This is not a good delusion to live under.

The Gray's being paranormal entities abducting humans and god silencing our telekentic abilities and the sun not being really the sun of our solar system are some pretty wild claims THAT REQUIRE EVIDENCE.

I understand and respect your point of view, as with any argument. The problem here is that you need to understand some basic things about this subject. The first is that any physical evidence, which there are many forms of it today, will NEVER be conclusively or unanimously accepted as good evidence. People simply aren't going to accept things they don't want to believe in. We live in a "belief, or faith" type of society that has taught us to not accept such things as well.

Besides how do you prove something is alien?

http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science ... 40662.html

The more extreme your claim is the more extreme your evidence needs to be. If you have actual evidence to prove that

a. Humans can receive telekentic transmissions
b. A god exists
c. Grays are a common pest that abduct humans
e. The sun is not the star of the solar system that the planet earth resides in

I would be happy to consider your wild claims. But you have not done that so your claims remain wild and ridiculous. So much so that it actually sounds like a really awesome sci-fi/fantasy story.

To understand how and why, and when God disabled out ability to transmit telepathy, all you have to do is research the Tower of Babel. You might however mistake his punishment as just simply erasing our language, and scattering us all over the globe, which of course could explain all of the different languages we have today. What really happened was our ability to transmit telepathy we removed, then we were scattered, forcing us to make a new language that involved talking with our mouths. This is confirmed later on in the bible when God talking to be is NOW referred to as the Holy ghost and the Holy spirit. People were perplexed at hearing Gods voice, and knew of no other way to name him. This understanding was further tested on someone that refuses to believe in aliens. I asked her if she was alone one day, and knew no one was around, and she also knew she wasn't crazy, but started to hear voices, where would she think they are coming from? He exact reply was that it must either be a ghost, or a spirit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction
Shows that telepathy is commonly used in abductions.

I never claimed A GOD exists. What I said was, an alien pretending to be our creator, tortured us. I'm sure the person playing God existed at one time, but it's even in the bible that he will not be able to tend to us for much longer. Surely, he has passed.

Around half of all reported alien encounters in the United States describe Grey aliens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien

Clearly the Sun is NOT our star. It doesn't matter if you believe in Evolution, it doesn't matter if you believe in creationism, they both contradict the effects the sun has on us today. Our alleged sun, burns us, gives us skin cancer, we need to wear skin protection, need to wear eye protection. Clearly when God abducted us, he landed us on a planet that was not fit for us. But don't take my word for it, listen to Ecologist/ Dr.Ellis Silver... The funny part is I have been telling my friends and family for years, it's not our sun, and now just about 4 or 5 months ago, I find this Dr online, has a book.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... laims.html

Believe it or not, I actually hate sci-fi, and often refuse to watch it.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 45 by mickeymudge]

Lets take your wall of text one claim at a time.

For example when there are over a dozen obvious facts that all prove that God was a space alien, you would look a little dim witted to try to refute it.

If there are over a dozen list them. Supply the supporting evidence please.


As for the believe me trust me etc. comment, that was implied by your lack of presenting any evidence but just making wild and absurd claims like god is a space alien.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 45 by mickeymudge]

Lets take your wall of text one claim at a time.

For example when there are over a dozen obvious facts that all prove that God was a space alien, you would look a little dim witted to try to refute it.

If there are over a dozen list them. Supply the supporting evidence please.


As for the believe me trust me etc. comment, that was implied by your lack of presenting any evidence but just making wild and absurd claims like god is a space alien.

D. There is redundant proof posted multiple times earlier in the post. You're going to have to walk yourself there and find them.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 47 by mickeymudge]

Yeah I went through those "redundant proofs". I just don't see any evidence just continued claims. The alien hybrid was pretty funny though. Just because you linked to a website that makes a claim does not mean that it is evidence. Let me demonstrate X is true my proof that X is true Prof Y said in journal B "X is true!". Let's be honest here that is justly plain silly.




M-eve stuff doesn't prove aliens ether just evolution.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 47 by mickeymudge]

Yeah I went through those "redundant proofs". I just don't see any evidence just continued claims. The alien hybrid was pretty funny though. Just because you linked to a website that makes a claim does not mean that it is evidence. Let me demonstrate X is true my proof that X is true Prof Y said in journal B "X is true!". Let's be honest here that is justly plain silly.




M-eve stuff doesn't prove aliens ether just evolution.

I'm not sure what you mean exactly M-eve stuff prove evolution. Nothing proves evolution. No one has ever conclusively proven that man came from monkeys, much less that any species came from any other species. Now there is speculation, lots of speculation, but that's not going to win a belief.

Using DNA to claim evolution is just like claiming the person that made the wheel for cars, must have been a relative to the person that made bicycle wheels. It's not even close.
If you wanted to narrow it down, you could say both were made by humans, then you would be correct.
I'm sorry there is just to many things that say it's correct and fact.

Basically what you're saying is the equivalent of people believing there is a president of the USA. However you have never met him or seen him personally.

He makes appearances on TV. He has interruptions on the radio, he is in the newspaper all the time, He allegedly makes changes and decisions for our country, he is or was voted for at one time, his face is famous amongst the public, his decisions effect us all in healthcare and other things, he has his own house he lives in with his wife, that's heavily guarded.

But the fact is, you have no proof of his existence.

You have taken a side of belief that majority rules. If there are enough people that believe in something, in addition to you agreeing with it, then it must be true.
But the fact remains you don't know for sure if the president exists.

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 49 by mickeymudge]

Please explain then how m-eve = aliens