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Our 'Saint' Has More Claims!

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From Post 40 here:
Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
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Re: Our 'Saint' Has More Claims!

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JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 40 here:
Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
Paranoia causes some people to react in strange ways. How many threads does one need about the in-house saint?

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Psalm139 wrote: Paranoia causes some people to react in strange ways.
Like claiming to be a "Saint"?
Psalm139 wrote: How many threads does one need about the in-house saint?
As many as it takes to address his claims?

Care to actually try to support your challenged claims, or are you like every other preacher who's come through here thinking they can skirt by on unsupported claim after unsupported claim?

The liar lies, and the preacher preaches.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 2:
Psalm139 wrote: Paranoia causes some people to react in strange ways.
Like claiming to be a "Saint"?
Psalm139 wrote: How many threads does one need about the in-house saint?
As many as it takes to address his claims?

Care to actually try to support your challenged claims, or are you like every other preacher who's come through here thinking they can skirt by on unsupported claim after unsupported claim?

The liar lies, and the preacher preaches.
I have a few hundred writings that God had me write that I could show in this forum but you will have to believe that it is evidence, just like anything you drag into this forum from Google search that was written by someone else other than yourself.

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Psalm139 wrote: I have a few hundred writings that God had me write that I could show in this forum
What you cannot show is that God had you write anything at all. Anyone can write whatever they wish and claim that it came from one of the gods " but cannot demonstrate that the writings are anything more than their own opinions and their imagination at work.

What would keep anyone from writing the opposite of whatever you say and claiming it came from God? Should your claims be regarded as more meaningful than any others (except in your own opinion)?

So far what you have presented does not seem to have earned credibility or respect from readers. In fact, quite the opposite judging from responses in threads.
Psalm139 wrote: but you will have to believe that it is evidence,
Do you actually think that readers will just accept your writings as evidence that the writings prove themselves to be truthful and accurate " or that you have some special knowledge of or contact with one of the proposed gods?

Do you have profound and original ideas to present " ideas that anyone interested and motivated can verify came from God? Or will they just have to take your word for it?

Gullible is defined as: a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action.

Nave is defined as: Lacking worldly experience, wisdom, or judgement; unsophisticated

It is a mistake to assume that members / readers / debaters here are gullible or naive.
Psalm139 wrote: just like anything you drag into this forum from Google search that was written by someone else other than yourself.
Citing references from research, whether on the internet or in the library or in the laboratory, can be evaluated by anyone interested and motivated by going to the sources cited and deciding for themselves if what is said is credible, verified, from disconnected sources, etc. There is far more to legitimate research than just taking someone's word (or writing) for what they present.
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Zzyzx wrote: .
Psalm139 wrote: I have a few hundred writings that God had me write that I could show in this forum
What you cannot show is that God had you write anything at all. Anyone can write whatever they wish and claim that it came from one of the gods " but cannot demonstrate that the writings are anything more than their own opinions and their imagination at work.

What would keep anyone from writing the opposite of whatever you say and claiming it came from God? Should your claims be regarded as more meaningful than any others (except in your own opinion)?
Anyone who shares his or her thoughts can only be believed by the one who is receiving these thoughts whether it's from a school teacher, CEO of a major company, a parent, scientist, lawyer, pastor, priest, saint, prophet, etc.

My thoughts may be different than someone else's but I know that some will reject them and others will accept them. I know for a fact that chosen believers will accept the thoughts I share in this forum.
So far what you have presented does not seem to have earned credibility or respect from readers. In fact, quite the opposite judging from responses in threads.
I have already met a believer amongst the posters in the threads I've posted in who gave me a subtle acknowledgment of learning something from my posts. I know there are members in here who will like many of the thoughts I share in here. They might reject some of it but that's okay with me. I don't expect anyone to know everything that I was directly taught by our Creator.
Psalm139 wrote: but you will have to believe that it is evidence,
Do you actually think that readers will just accept your writings as evidence that the writings prove themselves to be truthful and accurate " or that you have some special knowledge of or contact with one of the proposed gods?
Yes. There will be believers in this forum who will accept some of my posts without needing any evidence at all.
Do you have profound and original ideas to present " ideas that anyone interested and motivated can verify came from God? Or will they just have to take your word for it?
I have plenty of thoughts to share in this forum that will be new and different than anyone who has ever been in this forum. There may be a few believers who can accept this knowledge as being true. But that is up to those believers, not the members who don't believe.
Gullible is defined as: a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action.

Nave is defined as: Lacking worldly experience, wisdom, or judgement; unsophisticated

It is a mistake to assume that members / readers / debaters here are gullible or naive.
Most believers I have met are very intelligent people such as physicists, cellular biologists, teachers, accountants, business owners, musicians, poets, etc. I have even met a few Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, etc. who like what I have to tell them.
Psalm139 wrote: just like anything you drag into this forum from Google search that was written by someone else other than yourself.
Citing references from research, whether on the internet or in the library or in the laboratory, can be evaluated by anyone interested and motivated by going to the sources cited and deciding for themselves if what is said is credible, verified, from disconnected sources, etc. There is far more to legitimate research than just taking someone's word (or writing) for what they present.
Researching for evidence is a great way for plagiarizers to make people think they are smarter than they really are. Most people can't speak from their own hearts about the things they believe in. They need outside support to convince someone that they understand what they believe.

Do you think I'm stupid?

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Psalm139 wrote: Researching for evidence is a great way for plagiarizers to make people think they are smarter than they really are. Most people can't speak from their own hearts about the things they believe in. They need outside support to convince someone that they understand what they believe.
Research is a valid way to discover truth, to study, to learn, to challenge your beliefs. Your disdain and total misunderstanding of research and evidence is disturbingly clear from your posts.
Psalm139 wrote:Do you think I'm stupid?
Yes I do.

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SailingCyclops wrote:
Psalm139 wrote: Researching for evidence is a great way for plagiarizers to make people think they are smarter than they really are. Most people can't speak from their own hearts about the things they believe in. They need outside support to convince someone that they understand what they believe.
Research is a valid way to discover truth, to study, to learn, to challenge your beliefs. Your disdain and total misunderstanding of research and evidence is disturbingly clear from your posts.
Psalm139 wrote:Do you think I'm stupid?
Yes I do.
I know exactly how we were created and I can produce all kinds of evidence to support this claim but it takes belief in order to be convinced about how we were created. If you don't believe the evidence, then I can't help you understand what I've been taught directly by our Creator.

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Psalm139 wrote:
JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 40 here:
Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
...
For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
Paranoia causes some people to react in strange ways. How many threads does one need about the in-house saint?
AS many at there are unsupported claims by our in-house saint.

We should number them I think they are in the dozens now.

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Blastcat wrote:
Psalm139 wrote:
JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 40 here:
Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
...
For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
Paranoia causes some people to react in strange ways. How many threads does one need about the in-house saint?
AS many at there are unsupported claims by our in-house saint.

We should number them I think they are in the dozens now.
I don't 'preciate your pointin' out you have you more finger's me!

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