Donald Trump

WinePusher · Post by **WinePusher** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:56 pm

What do you make of this guy? If he actually wins the presidency (which is a real possibility) what country will you move to?

Imo, he's highly entertaining to watch, and I'm eagerly awaiting the first republican presidential debate to see how crazy it'll be. The only real benefit of him entering the race is that it'll cause people who were probably apathetic when it came to politics to tune in and inform themselves on the issues.

Elijah John · Post by **Elijah John** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:16 am

I think he has tapped into a lot of the ourtrage folks have been feeling with traditional politicians. Love him or hate him, he certainly speaks his mind.

Ari Fleicher, (President W Bush's former press secretary) had a good observation. Trump is at around 30% now, and with a field of about 15 Republican candidates, that is enough to put him at the top.

But as the field starts to dwindle, as it inevitably will, that 30% ceiling will not be enough to keep him at the top, and it is very unlikely that he will win the nomination.

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:52 am

Further evidence that Trump is a joke, a clown show, an arrogant ignoramus is that Dennis Rodman has endorsed him.

Is that what Presidential politics has come to?
That 'The Worm's' endorsement means something positive?

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... VISuKbWvXQ

help3434 · Post by **help3434** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:10 am

[Replying to post 12 by Danmark]

Hey, we know Dennis Rodman has good taste in political leaders. He is friends with the Dictator of North Korea after all.

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:46 am

help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 12 by Danmark]

Hey, we know Dennis Rodman has good taste in political leaders. He is friends with the Dictator of North Korea after all.

Now that you mention it, 'The Donald' and Kim Jong-un have more in common than just goofy hair.

help3434 · Post by **help3434** » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:45 am

[Replying to post 14 by Danmark]

Rodman is probably just returning the favor since Trump endorsed his "basketball diplomacy."

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/d ... 88364.html

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:18 am

Haven wrote: Honestly, the 2016 field looks absolutely terrible so far (and on both sides).

On the Democratic side you have a self-described socialist (Sanders), a pro-war, anti-environment conservative-lite (Clinton), and a few lackluster liberal state governors, and on the Republican side you have a cadre of far-right individuals all competing with each other to see who can make the most ridiculous and offensive statements about pretty much anything (Trump, Huckabee, Carson, Cruz, Walker, et cetera, et cetera).

Where is the sensible, rational moderate in this election? There doesn't seem to be one (except maybe Clinton, but then she's very much in favor of an interventionist foreign policy).

It's too early to tell, but it's looking like another third party vote for me next year.

Speaking from the other side of the Pacific...what about Bernie Sanders?

Haven · Post by **Haven** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:51 am

[Replying to post 16 by bernee51]

I agree with him on social issues, but I think he's too far left on economic issues (not just liberal, but actually socialist). He'd be terrible for the economy--raising taxes dramatically would erase the gains we've made since the Great Recession.

bluethread · Post by **bluethread** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:57 am

Haven wrote: [Replying to post 16 by bernee51]

I agree with him on social issues, but I think he's too far left on economic issues (not just liberal, but actually socialist). He'd be terrible for the economy--raising taxes dramatically would erase the gains we've made since the Great Recession.

If you want a candidate that matches your standards, you can always run yourself. The only problem, in a democratic republic, is that everyone else wants a candidate that matches their standards.

Zzyzx · Post by **Zzyzx** » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:00 pm

.

bluethread wrote: The only problem, in a democratic republic, is that everyone else wants a candidate that matches their standards.

That is not a problem but a strength.

In a properly functioning democratic republic the candidate that matches the standards of a majority of voters is elected.

Unfortunately, the present US democratic republic doesn't appear to be functioning very well for a number of reasons.

jeager106 · Post by **jeager106** » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:36 pm

Trump took that debate like Hitler took Paris.
He sure shocked a lot of people and has a huge following among voters.
If he wins the Presidency I'm moving to Australia.