O.T. Prophecies of Jesus

[liamconnor]

One apologetic here for Christianity has laid great stress on the prophetic success of Jesus. I think he referred to at least 300 O.T. prophecies which Jesus fulfilled.


My contention: Jesus fulfilled very few. A good many of them are tautologies: like, "he was to be born of a woman" (I mean, really? If I said, "he would have a nose" would that make it a fulfilled prophecy?). Some are redundant (He would be a descendant of David; he would be a descendant of Abraham. Well, obviously the latter if the former!)

But most are not even prophecies.

Of the top of my head I can think of only ONE explicit prophecy he fulfilled: born in Bethlehem.

[dio9]

[Replying to post 1 by liamconnor]

The Gospel of Matthew lists some prophecies fulfilled which n prophet ever prophesied, Matthew was fixated on prophecies, He thought Christ was Christ because the prophets said so.

[JLB32168]

One apologetic here for Christianity has laid great stress on the prophetic success of Jesus. I think he referred to at least 300 O.T. prophecies which Jesus fulfilled.

1) I’m an English teacher and thank you writing out 300 with numerals rather than in words (which drives me crazy.)

Of the top of my head I can think of only ONE explicit prophecy he fulfilled: born in Bethlehem.

Most Christians (including me) believe that Christ fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias 7:14 (I read the Greek LXX because I’m Eastern Orthodox) – “Behold a parthenos/virgin shall conceive and bear a son. The standard argument against this is that almah might mean virgin, but it need not. That’s not a problem for the Eastern Orthodox Christian who holds the Greek Septuagint to be more authoritative than the Hebrew based upon Christ’s and the Apostles’ exclusive use of the LXX in the NT. The next argument is that the divine sign was supposedly given to the king at the time; however, the only child expressly mentioned after that is Spoil-quickly-plunder-speedily – hardly synonymous with “God w/Us.� No prophecy passes in the OT w/o it’s being fulfilled being mentioned as well; therefore, the early Christian Fathers concluded that the prophecy wasn’t filled at the time and was meant to apply to Christ. Esaias 9:16 also suggests prophecy since we’ve no record of that kid being born either. There’s also Psalm 2 (LXX), Esaias 53-54, Psalm 22.

I should point out that the LXX version lends itself much better to Christian interpretations than its Hebrew counterpart, which is probably why the Jews chucked it.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by liamconnor]

I'm not sure about 300 but there are a number of prophecies that I believe alluded to Jesus and were fulfilled by him (see below for a few examples).




Further reading
http://wol.jw.org/fr/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102005134
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014749

Video Presentation: Gerrit Lösch: Fortified by "the Prophetic Word" [ Start at 5"30]
http://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODStudio/pu ... 03_1_VIDEO