Is Hillary Clinton "Untrustworthy?"

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Is Hillary Clinton "Untrustworthy?"

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While Bill Clinton was still governor of Arkansas, before I really even had a clear idea of who the Clinton's are, someone told me a particularly obscene Hillary Clinton joke. Why are people telling obscene jokes about this woman I am barely aware of, this woman who is after all the WIFE of a politician and not even (then) running for office herself, I wondered? That is the extent of the character assassination of Hillary Clinton that has been occurring for more than 30 years now. Why? Apparently because she has the audacity to have thoughts, ideas and opinions of her own. Clearly she is NOT the Republican ideal of what a woman and wife should be. Hillary Clinton is everything Republicans hate. An intelligent well educated AMBITIOUS woman. How dare she!

Here is a list of the various "offences" that Republicans have charged Hillary with over the years.

1. When she was first lady, she murdered White House lawyer Vince Foster and then dumped his body in a park.
2. She drove Vince Foster to commit suicide through her temper tantrums.
3. She was having an affair with Vince Foster.
4. She’s a lesbian.
5. Chelsea isn’t Bill Clinton’s child.
6. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up that she once bought a tract of undeveloped land in Arkansas and lost money.
7. She murdered Vince Foster to cover up her role in firing the White House travel department.
8. After she murdered Vince Foster, she ransacked his office in the middle of the night and stole all the documents proving her guilt.
9. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, she was a partner in the state’s top law firm, and it sometimes did work involving the state government.
10. She once invested in commodities futures on the advice of a friend and made $100,000, proving she’s a crook.
11. She once invested in real estate on the advice of another friend and lost $100,000, also proving she’s a crook.
12. Unnamed and unverifiable sources have told Peggy Noonan things about the Clintons that are simply too terrible to repeat.
13. The personnel murdered at Benghazi make her the first secretary of state to lose overseas personnel to terrorism — apart from Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, George Schultz, Dean Rusk and some others.
14. Four State Department staff were murdered at Benghazi, compared with only 119 others murdered overseas under every secretary of state combined since World War II.
15. She illegally sent classified emails from her personal server, except that apparently they weren’t classified at the time.
16. She may have cynically wriggled around the email law by “technically� complying with it.
17. She once signed a lucrative book contract when she was a private citizen.
18. Donald Trump says she “should be in jail,� and he’s a serial bankrupt casino developer in Atlantic City, so he should know.
19. Former House Majority Leader Tom Delay says his “law-enforcement sources� tell him she is “about to be indicted� — and if a man once convicted of money laundering and conspiracy doesn’t have good law-enforcement sources, who does?
20. She’s a hard-left radical who wants to break up the nuclear family.
21. She’s a conservative “mousewife� who refused to break up her own family.
22. She’s in favor of single moms.
23. She refused to be a single mom.
24. When she was first lady of Arkansas, she pandered to conservative voters by dyeing her hair.
25. Before that, she totally insulted them by refusing to.
26. She’s a frump.
27. She spends too much money on designer dresses.
28. She has “cankles.�
29. She has a grating voice.
30. She yells into the microphone.
31. She spent 18 years in Arkansas and some of the people she knew turned out to be crazy rednecks and crooks.
32. She’s in the pay of the mafia.
33. She’s in the pay of the Chinese government.
34. She’s in the pay of the Wall Street banks.
35. In order to suppress the billing records from her time at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, she cleverly packed them up and took them to the White House rather than shredding them.
36. When she handed over the documents to public officials, they couldn’t find any evidence she’d committed any crimes, so she must have doctored them.
37. Congress spent tens of millions of dollars and six years investigating her investment in the Whitewater real-estate project, and, while they didn’t actually find anything, they wouldn’t have spent all that money if there weren’t something there.
38. By cleverly hiding all evidence of her crimes in the Whitewater affair, she caused Congress to waste all that taxpayers’ money.
39. When she ran for senator of New York, she was still a fan of the Chicago Cubs.
40. She once said the Clintons were thinking of adopting a child, and they didn’t follow through.
41. She was photographed holding her hand near her mouth during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
42. She’s got brain damage.
43. She’s old.
44. She’s really ambitious and calculating, unlike all the other people running for president.
45. She secretly supported Palestinian terrorists, Puerto Rican terrorists and Guatemalan terrorists.
46. She secretly supported a group that wants to give Maine back to the Indians.
47. She’s a secret follower of “radical prophet� Saul Alinsky.
48. She did her law degree at Yale, and it’s a well-known “socialist finishing school.�
49. When she was young, she did things to build up her résumé rather than just for their own good.
50. When Bill was president, she “allowed� him to keep people waiting.
51. She’s married to a sex addict.
52. She’s an enemy of traditional marriage.
53. She didn’t divorce her husband.
54. His philandering is her fault because she is too strong, and too weak, and too frumpy, and too fat, and too cold.
55. She’s hostile to women who fool around with her husband.
56. A divorced taxi driver in Florida told me that if Hillary is elected president, “women will take over everything.�
57. She insulted Tammy Wynette.
58. When they left the White House, she and Bill bought a big house in New York that they couldn’t afford.
59. She sometimes calls her staff during dinner, even when they’re out at a restaurant.
60. She claimed there was a “vast right-wing conspiracy� against her husband, and it turned out there was nothing but a bunch of tycoons financing private investigators, and some fake think tanks and books and news sites and stuff.
61. When she got married, she didn’t “stay at home and bake cookies.�
62. She supported the Iraq war because she’s a secret foreign-policy conservative.
63. She’s a secret foreign-policy radical with a plan to impose worldwide “radical social experimentation� through the World Bank.
64. She is secretly plotting to let children sue their parents for making them take out the garbage.
65. She looked bored during the Benghazi hearings.

And yet she is still still walking around free? In actual fact, she has never actually been charged with a crime, much less convicted of anything. One would think that anyone THIS evil would have been hung, beheaded, drawn and quartered by now.

What do the polls indicate that Hillary Clinton's biggest negative is? That she is "untrustworthy." Given all of the untrue and plainly mean spirited vilification that has been heaped on her over the years, the fact that she is still standing on the public stage says a lot about her character. Given the unprecedented level of bile thrown at her for years now, most people would have packed it in long ago.
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Monta wrote: [Replying to post 23 by Donray]


"The Christians ruined the Republican party. When is the Christian right going to learn that abortion and gays marriage is not a major issue if it is an issue at all."

Today I listened to Trump/Hillary debate.

Neither Christianity or abortion or gay marriage was mentioned.
Tell use what the platform was of all the other people running against Trump in the primaries? Any against abortion and gay marriage?

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Talishi wrote:
Divine Insight wrote: It's bad enough that Bill Clinton was a sex pervert and we discovered that AFTER he was president. But now Trump is basically arguing that since Bill was a sex pervert it must be OK for future presidents to be sex perverts too!
"That tape was ten years ago. Trump has changed," say people who believe Old Testament views on homosexuality, written 2,500 years ago, are still applicable today to Gentiles.
JC: "Let those without sin cast a first stone".

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Monta wrote:
Talishi wrote:
Divine Insight wrote: It's bad enough that Bill Clinton was a sex pervert and we discovered that AFTER he was president. But now Trump is basically arguing that since Bill was a sex pervert it must be OK for future presidents to be sex perverts too!
"That tape was ten years ago. Trump has changed," say people who believe Old Testament views on homosexuality, written 2,500 years ago, are still applicable today to Gentiles.
JC: "Let those without sin cast a first stone".
What I said above is not applicable, must have had too much red....(home made).

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McCulloch wrote:
Donray wrote:One [Clinton is] a socialist (and look at Venezuela how a socialist president did).
Anyone who claims that Clinton is a Socialist really does not understand what socialism is.
And anyone who says Trump does not lie is not paying close enough attention (and it really does not take very close attention).
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TRUMP LIE? DOESN'T ANYONE BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SAYS: "NO ONE HAS MORE RESPECT FOR WOMEN THAN I DO."

His statement: "THEY ALL LIE!" inferring that he alone does not lie is gut wrenching.
Monta says "He who is without sin, cast the first stone." I take it that doesn't apply to Trump who is a demi-god and a legend in his own mind. Sure, Hillary has lied in the past, but so far not proven to be so blatant as the orangutan on . . . whatever (the sniffles are from, cocaine?).

And He claims the "liberal" media is out to get him! Well, I've heard that from the GOP for 45 years now so it must be true. And it is true that the media is made up of educated journalists who are well schooled in spotting a populist con artist. Educated v. the unredeemable, deplorable base, the former giving Trump (early-on) the benefit of the doubt as opposed to the latter's conspiracy riddled, lock-stepped indictment of Hillary. [/u]
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So, we are debating on is Hillary or Trump is the biggest liar?

That really says a lot about how would be a better president.

PS: does anyone believe that no one informed Hillary that she should not home server? And I thought she was a lawyer.

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Donray wrote: So, we are debating on is Hillary or Trump is the biggest liar?

That really says a lot about how would be a better president.

PS: does anyone believe that no one informed Hillary that she should not home server? And I thought she was a lawyer.
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Talishi wrote:
Donray wrote: So, we are debating on is Hillary or Trump is the biggest liar?

That really says a lot about how would be a better president.

PS: does anyone believe that no one informed Hillary that she should not home server? And I thought she was a lawyer.
The choice is simple: a qualified leader with some politically awkward emails or turning the world's mightiest military over to white nationalists.
To be fair they were not just politically awkward her phone routed back to her server, none of it being a high level encryption(phones are very easily hacked). So it was pretty reckless of her to do so, as it could also expose other devices routing back to that server to malicious attacks. For me the issue isn't the emails its the security, that being said the gov as a whole is pretty lax in this regard.

That, being said Donald Trump is a moron and even Hillary at her worst would be a Fort Knox of information compares to Trump. It is a sad state that there is still 40% of Americans supporting him.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: To be fair they were not just politically awkward her phone routed back to her server, none of it being a high level encryption(phones are very easily hacked). So it was pretty reckless of her to do so, as it could also expose other devices routing back to that server to malicious attacks. For me the issue isn't the emails its the security, that being said the gov as a whole is pretty lax in this regard.
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Talishi wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote: To be fair they were not just politically awkward her phone routed back to her server, none of it being a high level encryption(phones are very easily hacked). So it was pretty reckless of her to do so, as it could also expose other devices routing back to that server to malicious attacks. For me the issue isn't the emails its the security, that being said the gov as a whole is pretty lax in this regard.
Ecuador has yanked Jules' Internet and grounded him for three weeks in the London embassy, until the election is over. "My house, my rules."
I guess Hillary is safe for another day lol.
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