This has been a major concern of mine that runs clear back to the days when I was a Christian. As a Christian I would try my best to argue for a loving Jesus. I would search though the scriptures looking for the most uplifting and positive verses and interpretations I could find. And I would use those verses and scriptures to argue for a decent loving Jesus. A Jesus who easily forgives people just as he had suggested we should do.
Ironically I found that my greatest adversaries were not atheists or non-Christians, but instead the people who objected to a loving Jesus the most were other Christians. They were always quick to point out other verses that seemed to contradict the loving positive verses that I would point to. They also seemed to always favor the most negative and condemning interpretations of any verses. Always rejecting any interpretation that might allow for anyone to ever escape condemnation if they don't proclaim Jesus to be the ultimate authority and King of Creation.
Is this the bottom line for Christianity?
Is the love that Jesus taught meaningless?
It is not enough to be a loving person?
Is Christianity ultimate about confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord and Ruler of the universe?
Is that what Christianity is all about?
Why are Christian so opposed to a loving forgiving Jesus?
And why is being a loving person not sufficient to be in harmony with Jesus?
Why don't Christians support a loving Jesus?
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Do you believe God made something that he cannot destroy? Doesn't the bible say God can indeed destroy both body and soul?ttruscott wrote:IF HE made them indestructible then HE cannot.JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 17 by ttruscott]
Why cannot God just destroy the evil so they cease to exist?
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Too bad Jesus isn't capable of healing those people.ttruscott wrote: Love demands the banishment of eternally evil beings to the outer darkness outside of our created reality.
I guess we'll have to accept that in your theology Jesus is an extremely helpless and inept creator. Not much different from mortal men in that regard.
And according to Jesus only a few will make it to eternal life, therefore the vast majority of souls that Jesus creates are doomed to eternal banishment.
The only rational conclusion that can be had from this is that Jesus is extremely inept at creating souls, and apparently he's helpless to heal the defective souls that he does create.
This would be a creator who creates human souls like shooting craps. Apparently he doesn't care much about the human souls at all or he would stop creating them since his failure rate is so high.
How can people not see the extreme problems with these religious apologies?
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To this god, having his orders obeyed is more important than any problem with evil.
