What is the evidence that physics have been/are different?

[DanieltheDragon]

As far as I am aware the physics in our universe are consistent. Is there evidence that other parts of the universe after the Big Bang have different physics?

[paarsurrey1]

As far as I am aware the physics in our universe are consistent. Is there evidence that other parts of the universe after the Big Bang have different physics?

This being the "Science and Religion" forum, what is the religious side of the issue, please?
Anybody, please

Regardsm

[Divine Insight]

As far as I am aware the physics in our universe are consistent. Is there evidence that other parts of the universe after the Big Bang have different physics?

This being the "Science and Religion" forum, what is the religious side of the issue, please?
Anybody, please

Regardsm

Some Abrahamic theists are convinced that if science is correct, then the Bible cannot be true. Therefore they are desperate to disprove scientific knowledge at all cost. One attempt is to claim that physics has not been consistent over time as science suggests. And this is where the religious aspect comes into play. Those theists desperately need for science to be wrong in major ways.

Note: This is not true of all religions. Just as one example, Buddhism is totally compatible with all known science. Buddhism does not need for science to be wrong about anything. So there is no conflict between science and religion in Buddhism.

[H.sapiens]

As far as I am aware the physics in our universe are consistent. Is there evidence that other parts of the universe after the Big Bang have different physics?

This being the "Science and Religion" forum, what is the religious side of the issue, please?
Anybody, please

Regardsm

Some Abrahamic theists are convinced that if science is correct, then the Bible cannot be true. Therefore they are desperate to disprove scientific knowledge at all cost. One attempt is to claim that physics has not been consistent over time as science suggests. And this is where the religious aspect comes into play. Those theists desperately need for science to be wrong in major ways.

Note: This is not true of all religions. Just as one example, Buddhism is totally compatible with all known science. Buddhism does not need for science to be wrong about anything. So there is no conflict between science and religion in Buddhism.

Buddhism has no conflict because it is wise enough to put science in the driver's seat. Abrahamic theists demand that they drive and because Abrahamic theism is not reality based, it goes of the road rather quickly.

“If scientific analysis were conclusively to demonstrate certain claims in Buddhism to be false, then we must accept the findings of science and abandon those claims.� ― Dalai Lama XIV, The Universe in a Single Atom: The Convergence of Science and Spirituality

[paarsurrey1]

I don't find nothing in Quran/Islam/Muhammad that enjoins one to disprove science. No founder of any religion wanted to disprove science, they were only against that one should be too much engrossed in the worldly pursuits, the spiritual side should be given priority and preference rather than the worldly , that is what they guided one to care about.

Regards

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 14 by paarsurrey1]

It's not necessarily that the bible or the Quran specifically tell people to disprove or go against scientific knowledge. It is more along the lines that certain religious beliefs are incongruent with science. So some believers are triggered into targeting science in order to deal with their cognitive dissonance.

[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 14 by paarsurrey1]

It's not necessarily that the Bible or the Quran specifically tell people to disprove or go against scientific knowledge. It is more along the lines that certain religious beliefs are incongruent with science. So some believers are triggered into targeting science in order to deal with their cognitive dissonance.

It is more along the lines that certain religious beliefs are incongruent with science

We could resolve them in a systematic way. There are core beliefs and there are others which do not form core beliefs. I don't find any core beliefs of the Truthful Religion which is incongruent with science, not to mention that Atheism with all its hues and forms are not supported by science.
I give core beliefs of the Truthful Religion below:

Articles of Faith


1.Unity of God
2.His Angels
3.His Books
4.His Prophets
5.The Last Day
6.Divine Decree

Five Pillars of Islam

1.Kalima
2.Prayer
3.Fasting
4.Zakaat
5.Hajj

https://www.alislam.org/

None of them is against science. Right, please?

Regards

[H.sapiens]

[Replying to post 14 by paarsurrey1]

It's not necessarily that the Bible or the Quran specifically tell people to disprove or go against scientific knowledge. It is more along the lines that certain religious beliefs are incongruent with science. So some believers are triggered into targeting science in order to deal with their cognitive dissonance.

It is more along the lines that certain religious beliefs are incongruent with science

We could resolve them in a systematic way. There are core beliefs and there are others which do not form core beliefs. I don't find any core beliefs of the Truthful Religion which is incongruent with science, not to mention that Atheism with all its hues and forms are not supported by science.
I give core beliefs of the Truthful Religion below:

Articles of Faith


1.Unity of God
2.His Angels
3.His Books
4.His Prophets
5.The Last Day
6.Divine Decree

Five Pillars of Islam

1.Kalima
2.Prayer
3.Fasting
4.Zakaat
5.Hajj

https://www.alislam.org/

None of them is against science. Right, please?

Regards

Against? Actually each and every core value includes one or more items that are falsifiable with scientific data and the scientific method.

[paarsurrey1]

[Replying to post 17 by H.sapiens]

H.sapiens:
Against? Actually each and every core value includes one or more items that are falsifiable with scientific data and the scientific method.

Are "scientific data" and the "scientific method" synonym of science or equivalent of it, please?

Please quote from the discipline of science which has undertaken any of the core beliefs of Islam for investigation and published its findings in a peer-reviewed Journal of repute of science.
The Atheism people want to overburden science with issues that are out of the limits of science and incapacitate it.
We the believers understand that it may be an attempt of Atheism people to hide behind science to conceal emptiness of its own world-view. Right, please?

Regards

[DrNoGods]

[Replying to post 18 by paarsurrey1]

We the believers understand that it may be an attempt of Atheism people to hide behind science to conceal emptiness of its own world-view. Right, please?

Atheism isn't an "empty" world view, it is simply lack of belief in the existence of deities of any type. Since such deities have never been shown to exist, and as there is no longer any need to invoke their existence to explain nature or anything in the physical world, why should anyone believe in them?

It made sense in the ancient past, when scientific knowledge was in such a nascent state that many things in nature were mysterious and impossible to explain, to conjure up various deities as explanations. But in the modern world that is no longer necessary, yet people still believe in many of these same deities and practice many different religions without any evidence that their deities actually exist. That, to me, seems a far more "empty" world view.

[otseng]

Good additional info.

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