Even after sufficient proof, would you change that much?

[jgh7]

People debate back and forth about whether Christianity can be believed or not. But let's hypothetically say that whatever your requirements for belief were were satisfied. Perhaps the Christian God came directly to you and proved beyond doubt that the one true religion is Christianity (yes you're that special that he came personally to you).

So now what? You have belief, but are you really any different? Perhaps you will go to church, read the bible, say you're sorry for your bad deeds, and try to do more good deeds.

But do you really change fundamentally as a person from simply having belief compared to not having belief? Do things suddenly become more beautiful, does your personality change, do you become more happier and enriched each day as you live with your newly found belief?

[OnceConvinced]

Wouldn't you rather die than worship the God of the bible (if that choice were offered to you)?

I'll have a go at answering this one too.

It all depends on what this god of the bible will do to me. If he is going to make me suffer for all eternity if I don't, then I'll be asking which butt cheek he wants me to kiss first.

If however it turns out he's as really as wonderful as what Christians claim, then I would be happy to worship him. I'd just be going back to what I was doing as a Christian, which would be fine by me.

[OnceConvinced]

So yep, if the Bible is a true and correct description of this God's personality I would much rather die.

What if you weren't going to die but he was going to torture you for all eternity with flames as some Christians believe?

[JehovahsWitness]

It actually makes sense to me that an evil force (satan if you want to call it that) is more likely to be in charge than a supposed benevolent being, if a creator being actually exists.

Emphasis MINE

QUESTION: Who does the bible say is "in charge" of this world system?

• 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4
  Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. - New Living Translation
  
  1 JOHN 5:19
  We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. - NIV
  
  LUKE 4:5, 6
  
  And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this apower will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it

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[Kenisaw]

But do you really change fundamentally as a person from simply having belief compared to not having belief? Do things suddenly become more beautiful, does your personality change, do you become more happier and enriched each day as you live with your newly found belief?

I think God and His words makes me better. If I wouldn’t know what the Bible teaches, and without God, I probably wouldn’t love as I now do. In my opinion He has shown perfect example of how to live well.

So you stone your children outside the city walls for lying?

[Kenisaw]

It actually makes sense to me that an evil force (satan if you want to call it that) is more likely to be in charge than a supposed benevolent being, if a creator being actually exists.

Emphasis MINE

QUESTION: Who does the bible say is "in charge" of this world system?

• 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4
  Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. - New Living Translation
  
  1 JOHN 5:19
  We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. - NIV
  
  LUKE 4:6
  The Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. NWT

You assume I meant the world. I meant all of it JW. The whole kit and caboodle. Seems satan and god are synonyms, not antonyms...

[Willum]

Are you kidding me?
If the Bible would be proven true, you know I would change.

I would investigate it as dutifully as every other source of truth and get every last drop out of it. I would change my behavior towards it and though nothing wonderful is coming to mind, start behaving accordingly.

As it is, I am a much better person than anything the Bible could produce with its simplistic advice.

[William]

[Replying to post 1 by jgh7]

People debate back and forth about whether Christianity can be believed or not. But let's hypothetically say that whatever your requirements for belief were were satisfied. Perhaps the Christian God came directly to you and proved beyond doubt that the one true religion is Christianity (yes you're that special that he came personally to you).

I am stuck on trying to imagine what a being would use as evidence in order that I could then accept the religion of Christianity as the 'one true religion'.
The same applies to all organised religions.

I would say that this is because I don't have any requirements for such things, most likely because I couldn't think of anything which would convince me, and nothing from organised religions has had that affect on me. Even when I did become a christian, I immediately started to question different aspects of Christendom and this eventually lead me to discarding most of it as more political/cultural than religious.

I am a theist, and have a theology, but don't belong to any organised religion.

[William]

[Replying to post 11 by OnceConvinced]

It all depends on what this god of the bible will do to me. If he is going to make me suffer for all eternity if I don't, then I'll be asking which butt cheek he wants me to kiss first.

Gezz that's brave of you! I wouldn't dare ask anything and just go for the center and hope for the best.

[Justin108]

People debate back and forth about whether Christianity can be believed or not. But let's hypothetically say that whatever your requirements for belief were were satisfied. Perhaps the Christian God came directly to you and proved beyond doubt that the one true religion is Christianity (yes you're that special that he came personally to you).

I am stuck on trying to imagine what a being would use as evidence in order that I could then accept the religion of Christianity as the 'one true religion'.
The same applies to all organised religions.

I would say that this is because I don't have any requirements for such things, most likely because I couldn't think of anything which would convince me

Wait so vague occurrences like serendipity is enough to convince you that the Earth Entity is real, but Yahweh himself coming down from heaven and saying "I am God!" would not convince you? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. That's like doubting the existence of George Clooney after having a conversation with him, but believing in Santa because "how else do you explain that magical feeling you get on Christmas Eve?"

[William]

[Replying to post 19 by Justin108]

Wait so vague occurrences like serendipity is enough to convince you that the Earth Entity is real, but Yahweh himself coming down from heaven and saying "I am God!" would not convince you? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. That's like doubting the existence of George Clooney after having a conversation with him, but believing in Santa because "how else do you explain that magical feeling you get on Christmas Eve?"

My answer was related on the OP question. Your observation here is dubious and unwarranted and it specifically has nothing to do with either the OP Q. or my answer to that.

My own theology is not under question in this thread.