Is there ANY scientific evidence could show there is no God?

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Is there ANY scientific evidence could show there is no God?

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Is there any scientific evidence that, if discovered, would prove to a Christian that the God of the Bible is man made and does not correspond to reality? In other words, is there anything you can imagine that would demonstrate there is no God?

Many Christian apologists appeal to science to support their belief in the Christian God; however, I suggest those apologists do not actually accept any scientific evidence that might suggest this 'God Story' is a hoax. I would like to test this hypothesis by asking if there is anything science could report that would convince believers in the God of the Bible that the Biblical claims about God are false?

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[Replying to post 80 by Tcg]

Actually, theology is the study of the opinions of theologians. It can be quite instructive to those psychologists studying delusions and fantasies.


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shnarkle wrote:
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shnarkle wrote: [Replying to post 65 by marco]
The problem here is that biblical tales are still in the transformation stage of passing into myth
I disagree. They began as myth, and at some point people began to look at them as historical fact. That's the problem. Mythologies have incredible explanatory power, yet when they are reduced to some historical account, that all goes out the window. It turns into old irrelevant news; what we would now call "fake news".
I agree. They not only started as myths, they continue as myths. Myths may or may not adopt actual events. But whatever the actual history, myths' explanatory power has less to do with reality than with providing a plausible (tho' possibly anti-factual) explanation that fits with a populist view.
The evidence indicates otherwise. Historians, geologists, physicists, psychologists etc. all approach these myths and marval at how primitive people came up with such accurate accounts.
This is not true. I note you give no support for your claim. Zero. Nada. None.

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Danmark wrote: Is there any scientific evidence that, if discovered, would prove to a Christian that the God of the Bible is man made and does not correspond to reality? In other words, is there anything you can imagine that would demonstrate there is no God?

Many Christian apologists appeal to science to support their belief in the Christian God; however, I suggest those apologists do not actually accept any scientific evidence that might suggest this 'God Story' is a hoax. I would like to test this hypothesis by asking if there is anything science could report that would convince believers in the God of the Bible that the Biblical claims about God are false?
Science is irrelevant in the face of blind faith.

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I guess something like Aliens showing up and saying "oh, hey, all those stories of people meeting Gods in ancient culture. It was actually us! And we already discovered how the universe came to be: here it is!!"

But I guess that would just mean aliens were those God-like beings :-s

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ThePainefulTruth wrote:
Danmark wrote: Is there any scientific evidence that, if discovered, would prove to a Christian that the God of the Bible is man made and does not correspond to reality? In other words, is there anything you can imagine that would demonstrate there is no God?

Many Christian apologists appeal to science to support their belief in the Christian God; however, I suggest those apologists do not actually accept any scientific evidence that might suggest this 'God Story' is a hoax. I would like to test this hypothesis by asking if there is anything science could report that would convince believers in the God of the Bible that the Biblical claims about God are false?
Science is irrelevant in the face of blind faith.
Correct.
This is another way of saying
"The truth is irrelevant in the face of blind faith."

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Walterbl wrote: I guess something like Aliens showing up and saying "oh, hey, all those stories of people meeting Gods in ancient culture. It was actually us! And we already discovered how the universe came to be: here it is!!"

But I guess that would just mean aliens were those God-like beings :-s
There is as much evidence for people meeting aliens as there is for people meeting gods; to wit, NONE.

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There is as much evidence for people meeting aliens as there is for people meeting gods; to wit, NONE.
There are literally thousand of people who claim to have been abducted, visited by aliens in their dreams, comunicated with them, etc.

There are also thousand of cases across written history of humans making contact with higher beings, religious experiences, miracles, etc.

This is what is called eyewitness evidence, and it is the kind of evidence admissible in court.

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[Replying to post 87 by Walterbl]

Problem:

Eyewitness testimony is not considered reliable.

It is admissible, however it must be accompanied by actual evidence. A person's claim amounts to a rudimentary fact-check of what the evidence actually shows.

You've made a classic mistake of assigning more importance to faulty human memory and potential deceit than physical evidence.

Eyewitness testimony is not the standard at which you should be arguing if you're on a debate forum.

Those claims of abduction by aliens? Well, lack of evidence to support their claims. Dismissed.

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Then you may as well claim everything we know about ancient history is unreliable, since writing down what people witnessed was one of the primary method of sharing knowledge.

Your link only refers to people being able to correctly identify someone they only saw for a short moment.

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[Replying to post 89 by Walterbl]

You brought up the courts, not me.

Archaeological and historical evidence is something that compounds multiple sources that all corroborate something.

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