What, How, When, Where, and Why of Har-Magedon

[showme]

What, How, When, Where, and Why of Har-Magedon

Har Magedon (Revelation 16:16) is when the nations of the world will be gathered against Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:1-3), and they will be crushed all together at the same time (Daniel 2:35). It will occur at Meggido, which is located between Jerusalem and Damascus, and is because of what the nations have done to Israel (Joel 3:1-2) and happens after "Judah" and "Jerusalem" have been restored, which was finished in 1967. It will include 1/3 of mankind being killed by fire, smoke, and sulfur (Revelation 9:18), and the nations will still not repent (Revelation 9:21). Those who come against Jerusalem will die the same death that those who died in Hiroshima (Zechariah 14:12). Can anyone give the high holy day when this is most likely to occur?

As per how the nations will be gathered, they will be gathered by the influence of the demon spirits of the "beast" and the "false prophet" (Revelation 16:13). For the "beast" and the "false prophet" are already dead, and only their "unclean spirits" are here to influence their minions, such as Hussein Obama, and witch Hillary, along with the world leaders they interreact. The 7th head of the beast, who is also dead, is Constantine, the beast with two horns like a lamb. His "false prophet", who is one of the two foundation stones of the Roman church Constantine institutionalized, is the self professed apostle Paul (Zechariah 11:7-10). His buddy, Peter, the 2nd horn like a lamb (Christ like) of Revelation 13:11 , is the "worthless shepherd" of Zechariah 11:17, who did not feed, care or tend the sheep (John 21:15-17). This keeping in line with Peter denying Yeshua 3 times, the same number of times Peter said he loved Yeshua (John 21:17).

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The bible only mentions the word Armageddon/Harmageddon once in scripture in the book of Revelation. While various groups present various interpretations ranging from it being a writer's drug induced recollection of the destruction of Jerusalem at the hands of Roman military forces to a future nuclear holocaust, we (Jehovah Witnesses) believe Revelation 16 :16 Is symbolically refering to the future global situation when God will destroy the wicked to usher in a new world order under Christ Jesus rule.

REVELAYION 16:16
And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon. - NET

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QUESTION Why does God fight the war of Armageddon?

Basically because Satan and his demons and the world rulers that Satan manipulates refuse to go peacefully. God therefore will be obliged to use force to remove them from power and ensure that the wicked can no longer cause pain and suffering to earths inhabitants, stop the threat they pose to the environment and sanctify his name clearing the reproach that has been heaped on His reputation for millennia (compare Mat 6:9)

REVELATION 11:18

But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came [ ...] to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.�

ISAIAH 11:9

They will not cause any harm or any ruin in all my holy mountain, because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea.

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[marco]

It will occur at Meggido, which is located between Jerusalem and Damascus,

I think the wisest thing to do with Revelation is ignore it as an embarrassment. By design or coincidence there was a battle of Megiddo in WW1. Allenby was so successful there that he was honoured, becoming First Viscount Allenby of Megiddo. Of course we can assume that the drunkard who dreamt Revelation was seeing Allenby. Who knows?

[Willum]

Revelation is simply the history of Carthage place into meter and allegory.

The beast comes from the sea, as Carthage was a sea power.
It is made up of those fearsome animals from Africa, the bear having gone extinct. The heads were cities/eats of power.

Carthage and the Seleucid shared the same culture and used to be all part of the same Phoenician Empire, thus the adventures in that land.

And so one, and so on.

Oh, well.

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Armageddon is a spiritual battle, and we are in the midst of it. Throughout the church age there are times of intense confrontation between God and the forces of Satan (cf. 2:10, 13), but the most intense comes at the Second Coming (19:11-21). As Paul says in Ephesians 6, "... our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."

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@showme:
UGH.

@JH:
Um, well...

@marco:
LOL!

@Willum:
UGH.

@ALL:
Armageddon is a spiritual battle, and we are in the midst of it. Throughout the church age there are times of intense confrontation between God and the forces of Satan (cf. 2:10, 13), but the most intense comes at the Second Coming (19:11-21). As Paul says in Ephesians 6, "... our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."

Har-Magedon is a place, as in "gathered together to the place which is called Har-Magedon" (Revelation 16:16)

"Great earthquake", "huge hailstones", "the cup of God's fierce wrath" are physical manifestations (Revelation 16:18-21). And "Babylon the great", or in the present tense, the daughters of Babylon, the religions stemming from Babylon, are also looking at serious consequences.

[marco]

And "Babylon the great", or in the present tense, the daughters of Babylon, the religions stemming from Babylon, are also looking at serious consequences.

You do know that the Babylon fell about 5 centuries before Bethlehem hosted the baby Jesus. We had a very successful Persian Empire, followed by Greek and Macedonian ; then the Romans did their bit for civilisation. Does it make much sense in the 21st century to talk as if we're charging around on camels?