Evidence that the biblical Yahweh is God

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Evidence that the biblical Yahweh is God

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bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.

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StuartJ wrote: bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
The indwelling Holy Spirit attests to the fact that the GOD of the Bible referred to as YHWH is our creator GOD.
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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ttruscott wrote:
StuartJ wrote: bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
The indwelling Holy Spirit attests to the fact that the GOD of the Bible referred to as YHWH is our creator GOD.
And what evidence can you provide of this "indwelling Holy Spirit"?

For example, how do you differentiate between the IHS and your own thoughts? How do you know it's not the "indwelling Devil Incarnate" telling you lies? How do you know it's not a scheming leprechaun with ulterior motives?

Presenting fancy words and personal thoughts is not usable evidence for anyone but perhaps the presenter.

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benchwarmer wrote:
ttruscott wrote:
StuartJ wrote: bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
The indwelling Holy Spirit attests to the fact that the GOD of the Bible referred to as YHWH is our creator GOD.
And what evidence can you provide of this "indwelling Holy Spirit"?

For example, how do you differentiate between the IHS and your own thoughts? How do you know it's not the "indwelling Devil Incarnate" telling you lies? How do you know it's not a scheming leprechaun with ulterior motives?

Presenting fancy words and personal thoughts is not usable evidence for anyone but perhaps the presenter.
You've moved the goalposts: it was asked : What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God? and I answered. That you think it is inadequate and causes you more questions is your problem...
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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ttruscott wrote:
benchwarmer wrote:
ttruscott wrote:
StuartJ wrote: bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
The indwelling Holy Spirit attests to the fact that the GOD of the Bible referred to as YHWH is our creator GOD.
And what evidence can you provide of this "indwelling Holy Spirit"?

For example, how do you differentiate between the IHS and your own thoughts? How do you know it's not the "indwelling Devil Incarnate" telling you lies? How do you know it's not a scheming leprechaun with ulterior motives?

Presenting fancy words and personal thoughts is not usable evidence for anyone but perhaps the presenter.
You've moved the goalposts: it was asked : What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God? and I answered. That you think it is inadequate and causes you more questions is your problem...
Perhaps you've missed my point then. I was trying to show that you've presented nothing but personal opinion wrapped in fancy words i.e. 'indwelling Holy Spirit'.

If the only evidence is personal opinion, I think we can all agree, though it might be 'evidence', it's hardly useful for much other than explaining your opinion.

If I had answered "belly button lint" at least that would be a physical thing we can all look at. It would be equally useless at arriving at any conclusion about the topic though.

I will grant that you have answered the question posed in the OP. However, I have to wonder if this is the best evidence that can be given. If so, I think it's proving the OP author's point. Personal opinion is all Christians seem to have when push comes to shove regarding facts about their god or scriptures.

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ttruscott wrote:
StuartJ wrote: bjs asked:

Great! Which of those topic were you hoping to debate, and why didn’t you bring them up in the opening post?

Here's one of them right here:

What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
The indwelling Holy Spirit attests to the fact that the GOD of the Bible referred to as YHWH is our creator GOD.
Thank you for a refreshingly direct answer to the OP.

It helps the discussion immensely.
No one EVER demonstrates that "God" exists outside their parietal cortex.

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ttruscott wrote:What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?
This is 100% equivalent to "I feel it is true." And yet, lots of people feel lots of things are true and later find out they are not. Emotions are not a valid means of gaining knowledge (let alone act as evidence to know) and generally quite the opposite. Feelings oft prove more detrimental in gaining knowledge and instead fill our minds with misunderstanding. In fact, just look at how many people on these forums get offended or "feel" attacked by simple disagreement.
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Is the question presupposing God exists and asking if God exists how do we know that he (he God) is YHWH?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by StuartJ]

Are you asking for evidence that the God spoken of in the bible ("the biblical god") is YHWH?
You have that backwards. Let's double check StuartJ's question to see if I am right:

"What evidence of any sort whatsoever can be presented to demonstrate that the biblical Yahweh is God?"
Yep. You've got it backwards.

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[Replying to post 9 by Tcg]

Yes I saw that upon further reflection and edited my question (see above).

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