Being the "son of God" is not against Jewish thinking but the person remains human.
When the Psalms speak of it they are usually referring to David or one of his decedents taking the throne. They are mostly coronation songs or liturgy.
The NT used these as references coupled to a Cosmic Mystery Christ.[/quote]
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the NT doesn't do this, it doesn't take the psalms and use them to coronate some cosmic christ. christianity does. the church fathers take the NT and use it to start a new religion hybrid to sun god worship. the NT not a christian document !it's Jewish Greek document.
it speaks of the Jewish Messiah ! the Son of God ! the king of the Jews !
christianity is 99.9 % myth, a false gospel. !
it's a house divided, who's jesus isn't very Biblical, and comes in thousands of shapes and sizes. all anyone has to do is keep trying one on till they like the fit ![/quote]
You are going to have to bring the evidence, son.
I'm from missouri the "SHOW ME STATE" So your going to have to show me.
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if you have evidence that there's even ONE christian in the Bible - anywhere OT/NT - i'd like to see it. Or if you can show me the church, go ahead.
if the followers of Yahshua were christian don't you think they would call themselves that? what they did call themselves were disciples/apostles ! over 291 times in the KJV, NT alone.
the word church is not a first century word it was invented in the 4 the century.
check the encyclopedia.
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I agree with the fact that the term Christian was a negative remark 1st century.
I agree the Greek translated "ekklesia" meant called out, not "church" 1st century.
Early converts were Jewish. Later converts become more and more "gentile".
The part that is puzzling is "Christianity is 99% myth? Explain?
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Myth in the American Heritage Dictionary says; myth (mith) n. 1. a. A traditional story originating in a preliterate society, dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors,or heroes that serve as primordial types in a primitive view of the world. b. A body of such stories told among a given people; mythology. c. All such stories collectively. 2. A real or fictional story, recurring theme, or character type that appeals to the consciousness of a people by embodying it's cultural ideals or by giving expression to deep, commonly felt emotions. 3. A fiction or half truth, esp. one that forms part of the ideology of a society: the myth of racial superiority. 4. A fictitious story, person, or thing...
I'm referring to myth in the sense of 2. a character type that appeals to the consciousness of a people by embodying it's cultural ideals / giving expression to deep commonly felt emotions. 3. a fiction or half truth 4. a fictitious story, person, or thing.
I'm not saying that the Bible isn't true, what i am saying is that what people say about the Bible - or what they say the Bible says - isn't always true. OK i just over stated the obvious, but it's worth noting. because errors abound and clarity is difficult when the truth gets muddled. it's the difference between exegsis and eisegesis.
Jer. 10:2 says "Do not learn the way of the heathen/gentiles; do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, ... vs 3 says' for the customs of the people are futile; so it's important to know the true way and walk in it.
EVERY BIBLE HAS A BYES. a BYES is imposable to get away from. by what's the right BYES ?
i think it's one that comes from a Torah perspective. by that i mean to say that i don't see the whole of scripture, that is the OT/NT arguing against each other. In other woods i am saying that the Bible has a cohesive theme through out, a contiguity (nearness) and a continuance that is visible through a contrast. a very difficult contrast to understand outside of the Hebrew mind -set.
christianity on the other hand pits the OT against the NT. as if they are at odds with each other.
i'll give an example. though this is difficult because consensus in christendom is imposable. but i'll try.
christianity has a poor view of the law/Tarah. it holds that the law/Torah is a bondage or imposable and a curse.
as a starting point law is not a fare interpretation of Torah. without getting into the linguistics the first five books of the Bible are not just laws. there are historical accounts, cultural norms, genealogies, creation etc.
Luke 1:54,55 says "He has helped His servant Israel, In remembrance of His mercy, As He spoke to our fathers, To Abraham and his seed forever."
Zacharias continues in vs 68 -79 Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, for He has visited and redeemed His people, and raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of David, as He spoke by the mouth of His prophets,who have been since the world began, that we should be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us, to preform the mercy promised to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath which He swore to our father Abraham; to grant us that we, being delivered from the hand of our enemies , might serve Him without fear, in holiness and righteousness before Him all the days of our life. and you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest for you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, to give knowledge of salvation to His people by the remission of their sins, through the tender mercy of our God,with which the dayspring from on high has visited us; to give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace."
no talk of abandoning His people or His covenant. it does say that His people are in darkness but not that the covenant put them there. so to say that the law is a curse, or a burden/bondage that had to go when He says it - stay with me here, if law = old covenant - is to contradicted his own WORD. thus a myth!
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