What is the single strongest reason that supports your belief in Christianity?
How could we determine if that reason is reliable or unreliable?
Note: Discovering you have an unreliable reason would NOT mean your belief is false; only that you require a more reliable reason to justify a high degree of confidence in the validity of the belief.
What is your strongest reason for believing in Christianity?
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Re: What is your strongest reason for believing in Christian
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True Believers do NOT 'require a more reliable reason to justify a high degree of confidence in the validity of the belief.'
When desire to conform and to avoid 'afterlife' punishment outweigh reasoning, people will not only fail to verify what they are told, but will actively dismiss and ignore information that contradicts their beliefs.
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BGE,
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True Believers do NOT 'require a more reliable reason to justify a high degree of confidence in the validity of the belief.'
When desire to conform and to avoid 'afterlife' punishment outweigh reasoning, people will not only fail to verify what they are told, but will actively dismiss and ignore information that contradicts their beliefs.
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Did the storied 'resurrection' actually involve a long-dead body coming back to life?
What verifiable evidence indicates that actually occurred in the real world -- not just n the belief and/or imagination of gospel writers (whoever they may have been)?
Eloi,Eloi wrote: The strongest reason I have to believe in Christ (not christianity, cause there are two many forms of christianity) is his resurrection from the death.
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Did the storied 'resurrection' actually involve a long-dead body coming back to life?
What verifiable evidence indicates that actually occurred in the real world -- not just n the belief and/or imagination of gospel writers (whoever they may have been)?
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Do you believe what is written by ancient people without checking for truth and accuracy?
Do you choose to believe some ancient or more recent stories but not others (by such people as Mohammad and/or Joseph Smith)?
Do you know who wrote the gospels? Christian scholars and theologians are NOT in agreement that they were written by the famous people whose names they carry.
I do not trust what is written by ANYONE if its truth and accuracy cannot be established by verifiable evidence, preferably from multiple, disconnected sources.Eloi wrote: I don't have any reason for not trusting what I read from the evangelists. Do you?
Do you believe what is written by ancient people without checking for truth and accuracy?
Do you choose to believe some ancient or more recent stories but not others (by such people as Mohammad and/or Joseph Smith)?
Do you know who wrote the gospels? Christian scholars and theologians are NOT in agreement that they were written by the famous people whose names they carry.
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You choose to whom you believe or whom you trust ... I do the same. I got a lot of reasons to believe on Bible writers. Those reasons may not be strong enough for yourself, and that's Ok, cause you don't have to trust in the same persons I do.
The writers of the Bible wrote about their own experiences ... and I trust them.
And no, I don't trust in everybody ... for example, I don't know you, so I can not trust you on what you write ... no matter if you are alive or not.
You choose to whom you believe or whom you trust ... I do the same. I got a lot of reasons to believe on Bible writers. Those reasons may not be strong enough for yourself, and that's Ok, cause you don't have to trust in the same persons I do.
The writers of the Bible wrote about their own experiences ... and I trust them.
And no, I don't trust in everybody ... for example, I don't know you, so I can not trust you on what you write ... no matter if you are alive or not.
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Do you trust what was written by Mohammad and/or Joseph Smith? If not, why believe them any less (or more) than Bible writers?
I choose based on verifiable evidence, not emotion.Eloi wrote: You choose to whom you believe or whom you trust ... I do the same.
In debate one does not just put forth what they believe. There are even rules of debate here that require substantiation of claims.Eloi wrote: I got a lot of reasons to believe on Bible writers. Those reasons may not be strong enough for yourself, and that's Ok, cause you don't have to trust in the same persons I do.
Did the Bible writers experience what they wrote about? Were they actually present to observe events and conversations they describe?Eloi wrote: The writers of the Bible wrote about their own experiences ... and I trust them.
Do you know the Bible writers?Eloi wrote: And no, for example, I don't know you, so I can not trust you on what you write ... no matter if you are alive or not.
Do you trust what was written by Mohammad and/or Joseph Smith? If not, why believe them any less (or more) than Bible writers?
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With all due respect, I think you are wanting to discuss a different issue from the original post: what are the criteria to follow to trust a document or a person. You are also assuming my criteria without knowing them. I think you should open another post regarding that matter. I prefer to limit myself here to what was raised here when this thread was opened.
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Perhaps you overlook posts #6 and #8Eloi wrote: With all due respect, I think you are wanting to discuss a different issue from the original post: what are the criteria to follow to trust a document or a person.
AndZzyzx wrote:
I do not trust what is written by ANYONE if its truth and accuracy cannot be established by verifiable evidence, preferably from multiple, disconnected sources.
Do those state criteria for acceptance of statements?Zzyzx wrote:
I choose based on verifiable evidence, not emotion.
Correction: I ask questions rather than making assumptions. Unfortunately, many choose to avoid answering questions the answers to which might betray the weakness of their position.Eloi wrote: You are also assuming my criteria without knowing them.
Advice notedEloi wrote: I think you should open another post regarding that matter.
Feel free to limit yourself however you wish.Eloi wrote: I prefer to limit myself here to what was raised here when this thread was opened.
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