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Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration:
In law
In government
In business
In discussion or debate
If so, what religion should be favored and WHY?
Are there examples of religion being given favorable treatment when it should not?
Religious privilege
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Religious privilege
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Re: Religious privilege
Post #2[Replying to post 1 by Zzyzx]
Might makes right, numbers make right, and so on.
If they can take special treatment, they will.
Might makes right, numbers make right, and so on.
If they can take special treatment, they will.
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
To continue to argue for the Hebrew invention of God is actually an insult to the very concept of a God. - Divine Insight
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
To continue to argue for the Hebrew invention of God is actually an insult to the very concept of a God. - Divine Insight
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If not, what is the problem?
Has special consideration been suggested here for ANY person or POV?Overcomer wrote: Is there any reason secular humanism should give a person special consideration in those areas?
If not, what is the problem?
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Re: Religious privilege
Post #5[Replying to post 1 by Zzyzx]
In the UK, the House of Lords, which is Parliament's upper chamber, has over 700 members, all unelected. The Church of England has 26 places reserved in the House for its bishops. The Upper House has the power to amend Bills from the lower house, the House of Commons, and although it cannot stop a Bill from becoming law, it can force the House of Commons to reconsider Bills they send to the Upper House.
It is bad enough that a bunch of unelected people who are not answerable to the man in the street have a say in the running of a country, made even worse when some of those unelected people are Bishops in the Church Of England, a church whose membership is diminishing faster than the ice in the Arctic.
In the UK, the House of Lords, which is Parliament's upper chamber, has over 700 members, all unelected. The Church of England has 26 places reserved in the House for its bishops. The Upper House has the power to amend Bills from the lower house, the House of Commons, and although it cannot stop a Bill from becoming law, it can force the House of Commons to reconsider Bills they send to the Upper House.
It is bad enough that a bunch of unelected people who are not answerable to the man in the street have a say in the running of a country, made even worse when some of those unelected people are Bishops in the Church Of England, a church whose membership is diminishing faster than the ice in the Arctic.
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I suppose that this depends on your philosophy of government. From whence does a government get its authority? What makes that model of the authority superior to others?
Answer these questions, and you will probably have an answer to the question of this thread.
Answer these questions, and you will probably have an answer to the question of this thread.
Understand that you might believe. Believe that you might understand. –Augustine of Hippo
Re: Religious privilege
Post #7Is there any objective standards of law in the first place? Or is this just anyone's opinion?Zzyzx wrote: .
Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration:
In law
In government
In business
In discussion or debate
If so, what religion should be favored and WHY?
Are there examples of religion being given favorable treatment when it should not?
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Care to attempt a stab at the question "Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration"?
That does not require deviation into 'objective standards of law' or 'your philosophy of government'
Those who cannot deal with the question are welcome to ignore the thread.
[Replying to post 7 by Tart]
[Replying to post 6 by bjs]
Care to attempt a stab at the question "Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration"?
That does not require deviation into 'objective standards of law' or 'your philosophy of government'
Those who cannot deal with the question are welcome to ignore the thread.
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Post #9
Yes, it obviously requires both of these. If there is no objective standard of law then all laws are subjective, which means that the only validity to any law is that the person making the laws thinks it is valid. Our philosophy of government determines what, if any laws, should be given any consideration. Ignoring fallacious or incomplete parts of reasoning does not making that reasoning valid.Zzyzx wrote: .
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[Replying to post 6 by bjs]
Care to attempt a stab at the question "Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration"?
That does not require deviation into 'objective standards of law' or 'your philosophy of government'
Understand that you might believe. Believe that you might understand. –Augustine of Hippo
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Post #10
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Notice the word capitalized and underlined.
Is the question too difficult? Are there ANY reasons that a person should receive special consideration by virtue of their religion? Hint: That is NOT confined to law and government. Knowing that, can you contribute anything to the discussion?
Is it beyond comprehension that people can be given (or denied) special consideration by virtue of their religoin in ways that do not involve law and government?
Shall we play word games to avoid forthright discussion of the topic?
Reading the question VERY carefully, it does not confine itself to government or laws -- "Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration"?bjs wrote:Yes, it obviously requires both of these. If there is no objective standard of law then all laws are subjective, which means that the only validity to any law is that the person making the laws thinks it is valid. Our philosophy of government determines what, if any laws, should be given any consideration. Ignoring fallacious or incomplete parts of reasoning does not making that reasoning valid.Zzyzx wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Tart]
[Replying to post 6 by bjs]
Care to attempt a stab at the question "Is there ANY reason that a person’s religion should give them special consideration"?
That does not require deviation into 'objective standards of law' or 'your philosophy of government'
Notice the word capitalized and underlined.
Is the question too difficult? Are there ANY reasons that a person should receive special consideration by virtue of their religion? Hint: That is NOT confined to law and government. Knowing that, can you contribute anything to the discussion?
Is it beyond comprehension that people can be given (or denied) special consideration by virtue of their religoin in ways that do not involve law and government?
Shall we play word games to avoid forthright discussion of the topic?
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence