Location o Christ and his co-rulers during the millenium

[JehovahsWitness]

Revelation 20 verse 6 speaks of Christ ruling with others for the 1,000 years. As one if Jehovahs Witnesses I understand ...

a) Jesus will rule over humans beings (not spirits) that are NOT designated as kings
b) The subjects (those not designated as kings) will live on earth
c) Jesus will not relocate from heaven to rule from a specific location on earth but will rather be in heaven ruling over the earth.

Please share your thoughts on any or all of the points. How do you understand Revelation 20:6 as regards to

a) subjects : who ir what will he rule over?
b: location where will the subjects his rule live?
c) location where will Jesus (and his co-rulers) be situated during this rule?

[JehovahsWitness]

He returned to the earth to restore it to its original good condition. That re-creation begins in Genesis 1:3.

Where were Satan and the rebelious angels while God was restoring the earth?

Lucifer (Satan) and some angels under his command left the earth and warred against God. They were overcome and cast back down to the earth.

God returned and re-created the decimated neglected earth.

Satan and the rebellious angel could not have been on the eartn while it was being restored because verse (2) says the earth was "desolate" which means lifeless.

[myth-one.com]

Can Gods spirit coexist even for one nanosecond in "darkness"?

You just quoted a verse which states that He can:

GENESIS 1:2 NWT

... and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force [holy spirit] was moving about over the surface of the waters.

You even highlighted it in green.

(refer to the stuff in green above)

[JehovahsWitness]

Can Gods spirit coexist even for one nanosecond in "darkness"?

You just quoted a verse which states that He can:

GENESIS 1:2 NWT

... and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force [holy spirit] was moving about over the surface of the waters.

You even highlighted it in green.

(refer to the stuff in green above)

So if God and darkness can co-exist and he can operate in darkness must darkness bad?

[myth-one.com]

He returned to the earth to restore it to its original good condition. That re-creation begins in Genesis 1:3.

Where were Satan and the rebelious angels while God was restoring the earth?

They were on the earth -- having been cast down -- remember?

Satan caused Adam and Eve to sin -- remember that?

Lucifer (Satan) and some angels under his command left the earth and warred against God. They were overcome and cast back down to the earth.

God returned and re-created the decimated neglected earth.

Satan and the rebellious angel could not have been on the earth while it was being restored because verse (2) says the earth was "desolate" which means lifeless.

If the earth was lifeless, then God was not there either?

Is God dead?

Was Nietzsche correct?

[JehovahsWitness]

If God created the earth good, and it became formless, void, and dark -- then something occurred which caused that change.

Can you clarify, do you believe that which is formless* void and dark cannot at the same time be what God desires? If so, can you explain why not?

*formless means without a fixed form and void means without life (dark is the absence of light).

He returned to the earth to restore it to its original good condition. That re-creation begins in Genesis 1:3.

If the recreation begins in verse 3, what was Gods spirit doing in verse 2?

GENESIS 1:2 NASB
and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

[JehovahsWitness]

If the earth was lifeless, then God was not there either?

Fair enough so " void" can be relatitive, so in this case with god present, was the void good or bad? If the void was good (since God was present) why did it need repairing? If not perhaps you can clarify what exactly needed restoring in the void with individuals present?

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

There are only two possibilities to explain verse 2.

1) One is that God created the earth as formless, void, and dark.

2) The only other explanation is that God created the earth as good, and it became formless, void, and dark.

I accept choice two.

In short if Gods spirit can be present in that which is formless and void and dark and earth can have life even when formless and void and dark, why must there have to be a choice between #1) and #2) below?

2 CORINTHIANS 3:17 NLT
For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom

[myth-one.com]

>>>>>>>>> Replying to various posts from JehovahsWitness <<<<<<<<

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

There are only two possibilities to explain verse 2.

1) One is that God created the earth as formless, void, and dark.

2) The only other explanation is that God created the earth as good, and it became formless, void, and dark.

I accept choice two.

Can you come up with any other possible conclusions?

If not, quit squirming around and pick one or the other of the TWO choices and try to defend your selection.

Thanks

[polonius]

[Replying to post 108 by polonius]

I am dealing with various translations of the scriptures.

The scriptures were reportedly inspired by God:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)

Is there any evidence that "Intro to Revelation" was inspired by God or anyone?

RESPONSE;

Because scripture contains errors, it cannot be inspired by God unless one allows that God sometimes commits errors.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 117 by myth-one.com]

Im simply trying to understand the above dichotomy:


Perhaps you can explain what you understand by "formless, void and dark" and explain why you believe one must choose between these adjectives and goodness ? Since when is the opposite of dark good? Or void ? Maybe you are attributing a meaning to the words that escapes me.

- is there life in mars? If not did God not create it?
- is there light in the center of the earth? If not is it bad in there?
- Is water exactly as God wants it? What about oxygen? Do these things have a form or are they formless?


You seem to be attributing a kind of "evil" to these words and implying (correct me if I am wrong) they have no place in Gods purpose, yet some things are dark or formless by divine design and God expresses no displeasure with them. Think of Jesus precious blood, a liquid (all liquids are formless and take on the form of that which contains them) yet God accepted that blood as a ransom for mankind. Could you explain why in view of the above one must choose between the description of the earth in the opening verses of Genesis and that same earth being "good"?



JW

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to post 117 by myth-one.com]

Im simply trying to understand the above dichotomy:

Perhaps you can explain what you understand by "formless, void and dark" and explain why you believe one must choose between these adjectives and goodness ? Since when is the opposite of dark good? Or void ? Maybe you are attributing a meaning to the words that escapes me.

Formless, void, and dark mean formless, void, and dark.

Definition of Good: to be desired or approved of.

If God desired or approved a formless, void, and dark earth, He would have stopped His creating of it after the first verse of the Bible.

You cannot understand the remainder of the Bible if you cannot understand the first two verses of the Bible.

Man is Plan "B."

Satan and angels under his command was Plan "A."

Man can gain everlasting life and become equal unto the angels by being born again of the Spirit.

Those doing so under Plan "B" will replace the angels who failed under Plan "A."