Is the Jehovah Witness Religion a Christian Religion?

[polonius]

Do Jehovah Witnesses consider Jesus Christ to be God? If so, does it maintain that there are two divine persons? God and Jesus Christ?

Are both God and Jesus eternal and coequal?

[JehovahsWitness]

No, it is not wrong to speak out what we believe is scriptural.

What is wrong is to compare oneself or our leader or group, to others in such a way as to take the highest place as the greatest in the kingdom.

Well I rarely come across any Christians that don't recognise Almighty God The Creator as the supreme ruler of the universe and the only One who, occupies "highest place as the greatest in the kingdom". In any case we Jehovahs Witnesses believe without exception that YHWH Jehovah ALONE has that position, so if that is all you find objectional regarding claiming to "have the truth", and you see nothing wrong about "speak[ing] out what we believe is scriptural" we neither of us have any issue.

I'm glad we sorted that out, peace and joy to you and all you hold dear,

JW

[Checkpoint]

As far as "should not be done" again maybe I misunderstood, I'm very sorry, I withdraw the accusation, it was wrong of me.

Apology welcomed.

Much appreciated.

JW also wrote:

Now to avoid further misunderstanding, perhaps you could clarify what you are saying below and what it has to do (if anything) with Jehovahs Witnesses.

I do that personally in my own walk, yes; but not in my walk with other believers (other than on this forum!).

Not regarding those I gather with each week, or the denomination they are part of.

Emphasis MINE

I wrote that to answer a question asked.

It was about my personal choices related to sharing my view on controversial issues, and does not have anything to do with JWs or their choices.

[Checkpoint]

No, it is not wrong to speak out what we believe is scriptural.

What is wrong is to compare oneself or our leader or group, to others in such a way as to take the highest place as the greatest in the kingdom.

Well I rarely come across any Christians that don't recognise Almighty God The Creator as the supreme ruler of the universe and the only One who, occupies "highest place as the greatest in the kingdom". In any case we Jehovahs Witnesses believe without exception that YHWH Jehovah ALONE has that position, so if that is all you find objectional regarding claiming to "have the truth", and you see nothing wrong about "speak[ing] out what we believe is scriptural" we neither of us have any issue.

I'm glad we sorted that out, peace and joy to you and all you hold dear,

JW

Thankyou, to you and yours too.

Having sorted out one thing, we seem to have already something else to deal with!

I refer to my saying "highest place as the greatest in the kingdom", and your response to that.

Do you know why that is a real problem to me?

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 110 by Checkpoint]

To me "church" and "congregation" are the same thing. JWs just don't use the term "church" because we want to set ourselves apart from mainstream religion. But if someone says "your church thus-and-so," or "are you on your way to church," I would not make it a point of contention. To me that is splitting hairs.

Yes, they are the same thing, and it is splitting hairs to demote one to "set ourselves apart from".

Jesus himself introduced "church", after all, as you well know.

"Kingdom Hall" does the "set apart" job nicely, it seems to me.

[JehovahsWitness]

"Kingdom Hall" does the "set apart" job nicely, it seems to me.

"Kingdom Hall" is just the name if the buildings (not the people) .... what do you want us to call them "chicken coops"? Or are you now going to object to us having a roof over our heads?


JEHOVAHS WITNESS

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 122 by onewithhim]

I myself didn't understand exactly what Checkpoint was saying and asked him to further explain, but I haven't recognized an answer yet.

What exactly do you want me to explain?

What has been unclear to you?

[Checkpoint]

"Kingdom Hall" does the "set apart" job nicely, it seems to me.

"Kingdom Hall" is just the name if the buildings (not the people) .... what do you want us to call them "chicken coops"? Or are you now going to object to us having a roof over our heads?


JEHOVAHS WITNESS

Fair point.

Calm down, JW!

I like "Kingdom Hall": I think it is an appropriate and clear name.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 122 by onewithhim]

We say we have the truth because we have studied the Scriptures long and hard, and we realize that we are the only religion that follows exactly what Christ taught.

This is why we say we have "the Truth." Others will disagree, but that doesn't make us
wrong.

Similar claims are made by others, including the SDA, the LDS, and the Christadelphians, plus various Armstrong spin-offs.

It's a crowded field of those vying for first place, one that is unprovable and unprofitable.

[brianbbs67]

We say we have the truth because we have studied the Scriptures long and hard,

But not as long and hard as Catholic theologians who were studying long, long before JWs were invented.

This has been explained many times. Jehovah's Witnesses weren't "invented" in the 19th century by Charles Taze Russell. Jehovah's Witnesses have been here on the earth since Abel. He worshipped and was friends with Jehovah, as was Enoch, Noah, Elijah, David, and a slew of others down to our day. Read off the names of the O.T. books and you have more Jehovah's Witnesses. Jesus himself was a Witness of Jehovah (Revelation 1:5). So please, don't diminish Jehovah's Witnesses as some insignificant little group started up by one man in the late 19th century. That is not true.

Their brand of religion is much closer to Jesus Christ than the RCC or any other group.


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This is blatantly rewriting history as the NWT rewrote the bible. You can feel connection with people in the past. But they are not of your group. Why does every religion have to go a "bridge too far"?

[Checkpoint]

We say we have the truth because we have studied the Scriptures long and hard,

But not as long and hard as Catholic theologians who were studying long, long before JWs were invented.

This has been explained many times. Jehovah's Witnesses weren't "invented" in the 19th century by Charles Taze Russell. Jehovah's Witnesses have been here on the earth since Abel. He worshipped and was friends with Jehovah, as was Enoch, Noah, Elijah, David, and a slew of others down to our day. Read off the names of the O.T. books and you have more Jehovah's Witnesses. Jesus himself was a Witness of Jehovah (Revelation 1:5). So please, don't diminish Jehovah's Witnesses as some insignificant little group started up by one man in the late 19th century. That is not true.

Their brand of religion is much closer to Jesus Christ than the RCC or any other group.


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This is blatantly rewriting history as the NWT rewrote the bible. You can feel connection with people in the past. But they are not of your group. Why does every religion have to go a "bridge too far"?

Because it's a brand, and brands always compete against and compare their product favorably as the best you can get.

So it's natural for them to go a "bridge too far" to achieve their reason for being in the game of life here and now and in the life to come.