The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
The Checkmate Question
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Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #2Even if imaginary He is not avoidable like the other gods.SallyF wrote: The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
If that is true, and I'll defend it, would you believe?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Post #3SallyF wrote: The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
Exactly what other gods are you talking about? Why don't you tell us about them, and we will compare them, as far as historical evidence goes?
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My inerrant Cloak of Prophecy tells me that no Christian will give a straight answer to the Checkmate Question …
They NEVER do.
If Jehovah was anything other than as imaginary as ANY other god …
Christians would immediately counter with the evidence that Jehovah is NOT imaginary.
They NEVER do.
If Jehovah was anything other than as imaginary as ANY other god …
Christians would immediately counter with the evidence that Jehovah is NOT imaginary.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
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This may be because you specialize in loaded questions which I personally don't usually answer. I will consider making an exception here if you can tell me ....have you stopped beating your wife yet? . No denials, no premises, no explanations, no "wriggling and biggling or jiggling" just a straight answer...yes or no!SallyF wrote: My inerrant Cloak of Prophecy tells me that no Christian will give a straight answer to the Checkmate Question …
They NEVER do....
NOTE I wouldn't say you ask "checkmate" questions which implies intelligent manoeuvre respecting established rules, so much as loaded questions ie "trick question", which presupposes an unverified assumption that the person being questioned is likely to disagree with.
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Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #6What historical evidence can prove or disprove the existence of any God? At best, one can only prove that a given God had His devotees in any given period of history.Realworldjack wrote:SallyF wrote: The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
Exactly what other gods are you talking about? Why don't you tell us about them, and we will compare them, as far as historical evidence goes?
My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #7.
"Just worship the one(s) popular in your area of residence", seems to be the prevailing system.
None has been presented -- at least nothing verifiable (only tales, folklore, testimonials, opinions, conjectures, assertions).Elijah John wrote: What historical evidence can prove or disprove the existence of any God?
Thousands of 'gods', billions of devotees -- WHY believe any of them is real (in the absence of verifiable evidence)?Elijah John wrote: At best, one can only prove that a given God had His devotees in any given period of history.
"Just worship the one(s) popular in your area of residence", seems to be the prevailing system.
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Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #8[Replying to post 7 by Zzyzx]
WHY BELIEVE IN ANY GOD AT ALL?
Because an honest examination of the facts about our natural world leads many to accept the idea there must be a God. As Anthony Flew is reported to have said in his case, "I had to go where the facts lead me"*.
* This doesn't necessarily mean becoming "religious".
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* This doesn't necessarily mean becoming "religious".
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Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #9Is the OP question.The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
My Cloak of Prophecy was correct right here.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
Re: The Checkmate Question
Post #10Realworldjack wrote:SallyF wrote: The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
Exactly what other gods are you talking about? Why don't you tell us about them, and we will compare them, as far as historical evidence goes?
My Cloak of Prophecy was correct here too.The Checkmate Question
Is the biblical deity Jehovah just as imaginary as any other god …?
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.
"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.