All living things have souls

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 42 here:

1) All living things have "souls," but "soul"=/="immaterial."

For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the referenced claim is true.

[David the apologist]

From Post 42 here:

1) All living things have "souls," but "soul"=/="immaterial."

For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the referenced claim is true.

I have several "big posts" I'm working on right now, so the best I can do for the time being is reference you to chapter 8 of David Oderberg's book Real Essentialism.

[myth-one.com]

I can't prove it, but anyone who has loved a cat or a dog are convinced they have souls too.

Of course you cannot prove it. You cannot prove that you or I have a soul. I'll bet 1,000 tokens that you don't even know what a soul is. I certainly don't.

Whatever it is, it is going to die according to the Bible:

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. (Ezekiel 18:4)

For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 10:

But then I can't prove,, empirically, that my children think I'm really neat, either, but I'm going to continue to believe they do until one of them risks my ire and tells me I'm not.

Fear does seem to be a prime motivator, and tool of some Christians.

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 11:

I have several "big posts" I'm working on right now, so the best I can do for the time being is reference you to chapter 8 of David Oderberg's book Real Essentialism.

"I ain't got me no time to present it, 'cause here it is, I spent all my time explaining why I ain't got me no time to present it" is as poor an excuse as I've ever known.

[McCulloch]

We should probably start with a definition of what soul is.
For some people it's conscience or just life it depends.

When I wish to convey the idea of conscience, I search long and hard for the right word and ultimately use the word conscience. When I wish to convey the idea of life, I search long and hard for the right word and ultimately use the word life. I still don't know what soul is.

Dogs have conscience. Cats have life.

Never claimed I could prove it, only that I believe it and also believe our furry friends have souls too.

Can't really define it, 'cept to say that I believe it is the eternal, invisible part of us. No wager necessary.

You don't know what it is you are talking about, but you can describe its attributes and you have unsupported beliefs about about soul. Do you have a soul? How do you know? This outlines the ignostic problems with theology. No one really knows what they are talking about, yet the speak with certain conviction and faith.

[Elijah John]

We should probably start with a definition of what soul is.
For some people it's conscience or just life it depends.

When I wish to convey the idea of conscience, I search long and hard for the right word and ultimately use the word conscience. When I wish to convey the idea of life, I search long and hard for the right word and ultimately use the word life. I still don't know what soul is.

Dogs have conscience. Cats have life.

Never claimed I could prove it, only that I believe it and also believe our furry friends have souls too.

Can't really define it, 'cept to say that I believe it is the eternal, invisible part of us. No wager necessary.

You don't know what it is you are talking about, but you can describe its attributes and you have unsupported beliefs about about soul. Do you have a soul? How do you know? This outlines the ignostic problems with theology. No one really knows what they are talking about, yet the speak with certain conviction and faith.

You seem to keep missing the point I have been trying to make. I said I BELIEVE we all have souls, never claimed to have proven it and have not made the point with "certain conviction" as you seem to be suggesting. And I was fairly non-specific as to what I BELIEVE are it's characteristics, namely the invisible eternal part of us.

The existence (or non-existence) of the souls is like the belief in God, it cannot be proven or disproven...for me it is one of those things that transcend Reason, but does not contradict it.

Also if you are suggesting that cats don't have consiences, but that dogs do...well I could tell you some stories from experience that suggest otherwise, that they both have consciences.

[DanieltheDragon]

I can't prove it, but anyone who has loved a cat or a dog are convinced they have souls too.

Of course you cannot prove it. You cannot prove that you or I have a soul. I'll bet 1,000 tokens that you don't even know what a soul is. I certainly don't.

[yt][/yt]

The music you here is soul. I will have my 1000 tokens please as I have provided video evidence. Of course I reckon that really depends on what we are a discussing here but I wager soul is real and I define soul as food and music as it relates to African American culture in the united states. Now how soul relates to the human body it enters the brain through the nerves in the tongue, ear, and eyes through food music and dance. Once in the brain it creates to some a delighting sensation as it triggers the release of certain neurotransmitters like dopamine and seratonin.

[dianaiad]

From Post 10:

But then I can't prove,, empirically, that my children think I'm really neat, either, but I'm going to continue to believe they do until one of them risks my ire and tells me I'm not.

Fear does seem to be a prime motivator, and tool of some Christians.

That is not fear.

That's holy terror, and is common to all mothers theist or a, no matter what religious or philosophical system one follows.

It's one of the very few things that mothers have to use to handle kids. We ARE outnumbered. after all, even if a woman only has one kid.

I have five. I need all the advantages I can get.

[McCulloch]

Of course you cannot prove it. You cannot prove that you or I have a soul. I'll bet 1,000 tokens that you don't even know what a soul is. I certainly don't.

[yt][/yt]

The music you here is soul. I will have my 1000 tokens please as I have provided video evidence.

Only if you can demonstrate that this is what jesus had in mind when he said, "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 18:

Well how 'bout that, God's a mother!

I'm still uncertain as to how such a condition lends credence to the data presented in the OP.