On The Pledge Of Allegience
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On The Pledge Of Allegience
Post #1Why is it so necessary to include the words "under God" in the pledge? The addition of these words into the pledge force many people to be unable to pledge their allegience to their own nation. Why is it more important to have a devisive term in a pledge that declares we are indivisible?
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The same people who wrote the Constitution violated it with the US seal???joeyknuccione wrote:Violating the Constitution is violating it, regardless of when it happened.East of Eden wrote:Just wondering how you anti-God mention people feel about the great seal of the US, which since 1782 has had the motto 'Annuit c"ptis' (Providence has "approved of (our) undertakings.")
This also rather undercuts the idea of the Founders as deists, since deism believes God does not intervene in the affairs of human life.
The age of an idea has nothing to do with its truth.That said, I'm not much for requiring folks in the here and now to abide by the edicts of the ancients.
Mentioning God isn't theology.We gotta decide for ourselves whether we will allow theology to be the law of the land or not.
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE
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Post #161
From Post 160:
Looks that way. Have you never heard the phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do"? Hypocrisy seems to be part of the human condition, theist and atheist alike.East of Eden wrote:The same people who wrote the Constitution violated it with the US seal???joeyknuccione wrote: Violating the Constitution is violating it, regardless of when it happened.
Exactly, when an ancient idea is no longer useful we should discard it, and not appeal to it simply because it's "tradition" or some such.East of Eden wrote:The age of an idea has nothing to do with its truth.joeyknuccione wrote: That said, I'm not much for requiring folks in the here and now to abide by the edicts of the ancients.
Fair 'nuff. My point is that when we place references to a god on our government institutions and such we move towards theocracy.East of Eden wrote:Mentioning God isn't theology.joeyknuccione wrote: We gotta decide for ourselves whether we will allow theology to be the law of the land or not.
