Is gravity a state of force?

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Is gravity a state of force?

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Is gravity a state of force?
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0nce upon a time and in the 17th century, Vatican Scientific Authority propagated the dogma that curvature of space causes sun and moon and planets and stars to obit around earth. In the 21st century, Vatican Scientific Authority still propagates the dogma that curvature of space causes moon to orbit around the earth. And I still hear from the science of stupid that curvature also causes lift.
What is force?
Is relatively equivalent to force the same as force?
Is gravity a state of force?

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def: good
force is mass acceleration
def: redundant
acceleration is change in vector in verse velocity and vice versa
gravity is a force and curvature is not
newton et.al, Questions?

now is always a good time to offer better words two by two
What are two properties of force?
1.
2.
What are two properties of mass?
1.
2.
Does gravity force relative mass acceleration? Is curvature reaction to force? Might an unforeseen wind alter the course of a bullet? What does Authority tell you so? How might you tell even better?

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challenge
ask any elementary student

1. How much dirt is in a hole 1’ diameter?
2. How dense is a dark and bottomless hole 1’ diameter after 13 and a lot of 0^2 years later?
3. What is the force that gravitates dust bunnies to my hoover?

Better still ask a hyphenated physicist.

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[Replying to post 8 by r~]

So what are you postulating causes the moon to orbit the earth and the earth to orbit the sun?
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I see through your mark. I know why you fear to answer to me first.

What is the force that gravitates matter toward vacuum energy differential?
Is curvature a force? Really?

Name an observation of gravity that is not consistent with inertial pressure differential.

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I am trying to find a point to debate. In context of a debate one must declare their the subject of the debate and assert one's argument so a debate can ensue. I am sorry to just ask questions seem to be more of a plan to entrap not debate, if I am wrong I do apologize. I would like to have a debate, please state your stance on topic question and I will gladly debate.
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From Post 7:
r~ wrote: def: good
force is mass acceleration
def: better

Mass accelaration is the result of force. No mass sets to moving unless a force is applied.

def: the one about force
Merriam-Webster: Force wrote: noun \ˈfȯrs\
: physical strength, power, or effect
: power or violence used on a person or thing
: strength or power that is not physical
Sounds like a correct'n to me.
r~ wrote: def: redundant
acceleration is change in vector in verse velocity and vice versa
I find it just a bit arrogant that someone'd ask for definitions of words, then correct those definitions, like some old school ma'rm. If you wanna define something, just do it, and quit with the condescending, self-proud shenanigans, please. We're mostly all adults, we don't need to be, nor should we be, talked down to like a pack of first graders.

The previously presented definition ain't near "redundant", as it just doesn't suit your aims, whatever those may be.
r~ wrote: gravity is a force and curvature is not
newton et.al, Questions?
Why not just say that to begin with, and quit with the condescension?
r~ wrote: now is always a good time to offer better words two by two
What are two properties of force?
1.
2.
1. Affects stuff.
2. Get's defined by someone trying to answer a question, and then redefined by the one that asked it in the first place.
r~ wrote: What are two properties of mass?
1.
2.
1. Takes up space.
2. Can be affected by some, if not all forces.
r~ wrote: Does gravity force relative mass acceleration?
Yes. This can be confirmed by hopping out of an airplane, and noticing how ya start speeding up as you start speeding down.
r~ wrote: Is curvature reaction to force?
Yes. This'n can be confirmed by asking the maternal unit to stand in the middle of the living room, where it's then observed the joists set to creaking and groaning, and deflecting downwards.
r~ wrote: Might an unforeseen wind alter the course of a bullet?
Yes.
r~ wrote: What does Authority tell you so?
Observation tells me if I fire a shot at a target a mile away, I need to pray to the gods of wind to hush up a spell if I've got any hope of that bullet hitting the target.
r~ wrote: How might you tell even better?
Become either the bullet, or the wind, such that my observations'd be even that much closer to that which I observe.


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Excubis wrote: I am trying to find a point to debate. In context of a debate one must declare their the subject of the debate and assert one's argument so a debate can ensue. I am sorry to just ask questions seem to be more of a plan to entrap not debate, if I am wrong I do apologize. I would like to have a debate, please state your stance on topic question and I will gladly debate.
Best I can tell, the point is to ask folks to define stuff, and how wrong they are for having done it.
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From Post 8:
r~ wrote: challenge
ask any elementary student
I can see me, a grown man fetching after some young'n, a hollering out "Hey kid, I just wanna ask a few questions".
r~ wrote: 1. How much dirt is in a hole 1’ diameter?
Holes don't have dirt, they have hole.
r~ wrote: 2. How dense is a dark and bottomless hole 1’ diameter after 13 and a lot of 0^2 years later?
You need to tell us how long this hole is. Holes are, by your own definition of it, not bound to have a "bottom", but could be reliably measured if one tells how much long of that hole there is. Unless it's all vacuumated, and then we gotta fix that hole in the bottom of the hole, lest the vacuum doesn't hold.
r~ wrote: 3. What is the force that gravitates dust bunnies to my hoover?
An area of lower air pressure betwixt the bunnies and the hose causes the area of high pressure behind the bunnies to start scooting 'em t'wards or into the area of lower pressure.
r~ wrote: Better still ask a hyphenated physicist.
I need no physicist. All I need to do is watch the pretty thing when she sets to vacuuming the house every morning.
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Force is defined as the only thing capable of being able to complete "work". If "work" is done, then a force was involved. This is how you can define it.
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So why not just admit force is inertial pressure differential and curvature is not and gravitation is a state of force and curvature is not? Fore I know of no observation of gravity not consistent with inertial pressure differential and you offer not better.
yes
Attraction and repulsion are too properties of force and inertia and gravity are too properties of mass and gravity forces mass acceleration and curvature does not. Fore no matter how far from firmament to dome to sphere to cycle by epicycle; relatively equivalent alphanumeric images are and were and will not ever be closer to same as same as. Fore dirt matters not inside a hole and bottomless means no length or dense no matter time.

beware the wake 0f dark monkey lake
A particular force and energy haunts the crystal clear waters of dark monkey lake. Boats and rubber duckies float and drift a round the center, faster in slower out. Even speediest boats curve more the closer they brush center. From flatland level, boats wake and wave even spin and axial and simply disappear passing through center.

def: waters
fluent matters
syn: no matter energetic state
dark to unenlightened

sew many questions
What force draws matter toward?
What force reaches extent of waters?
a) inertial pressure differential
b) curvature of lakespace

Are there any observations of gravity not consistent with inertial pressure differential?
Were Michelson and Morley looking in the right direction?

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