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"Slavery" in the Bible

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Allow us readers to be very careful. We must make sure we identify the proper context here, to assure against hasty and/or self-serving conclusions.

Exodus 21:2-3:

"2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him." <-- Okay, this seems clear enough, if you are a purchased Hebrew, with a wife, you are both to go free in year 7. :ok:

Exodus 21:4:

"4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free." <-- Here is where things start to look sketchy for the modern-day believer. If the slave is provided with a wife, and they have kids, the wife and kids are to stay with the slave master. They are not to go free.

Exodus 21:5-6:

"5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life." <-- More uncomfortability for the Christian here. Without getting into the weeds, common sense suggests a special rule is made to trick the male Hebrew into remaining a slave for life.

Leviticus 25:44-46:

"44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." <-- More awkwardness for the believer, as the Bible reader clammers to find a rationale to make this passage not read the way it does.

Here is a basic definition of chattel slavery --> "Chattel slavery is full slavery in its traditional form whereby slaves are the complete property of their master, can be bought and sold by him and treated in any way that he wishes, which may include torture and other brutality, excessively bad working conditions, and sexual exploitation"

Looks like all the ingredients fit the given Bible description here, minus the torture. Wait a minute, this is covered in the rest of Exodus 21. (i.e.):

"20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." <-- So basically, since the slave is your property, beatings with impunity are acceptable. Just don't kill them.

For debate:

By applying common sense, does/did the Bible ever, and/or currently still sanction chattel slavery?

Again, by using common sense, can a believer effectively use the Bible in support of breeding chattel slaves?

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Before you answer, consider this.... Since the NT does not mention the abolition of 'slavery', and yet the Bible makes further proclamation(s) and/or addendums (in favor of retaining 'slavery',) this means the Bible is not against chattel slavery either. Further, the Christian may want to introduce the importance of the 'golden rule'. However, the specifics outweigh the generals. The specifics of the rules for engagement of slavery are outside the 'golden rule'. Otherwise, the Bible would be a one-pager. 'Slavery' is an expressed exception to the general rule. Thus, anytime a specific scenario is not invoked, yes, 'golden rule.'
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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:32 pm
POI wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:58 pm
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am When someone sees everything upside down and backwards, through human eyes instead of spiritual eyes, they mistakenly believe that freedom is allegedly slavery, war is allegedly peace and that good is allegedly evil,
No, "A Freeman". I explained what Deuteronomy 15 is addressing, and you simply moved on. I also explained the intricacies of Deuteronomy 25 as well, and you simply moved on again. You are the one who is mistaken. The book you believe in specifically tells the readers that slave masters may own humans, as property, for life. Furthermore, the Bible also tells readers that slave masters may also keep slave offspring. This is made clear in the original post. You conveniently skipped those texts, to cherry pick other irrelevant and/or contradictory texts. The Bible is clear. Slave masters may keep slaves, as human property, for life, as well as breed them to have new slaves.
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am The Law promises that anyone who follows it will be rewarded with God's Blessings in abundance (Deuteronomy 28:1-14), and that those who refuse will suffer the consequences of their actions in successive punishments (Deuteronomy 28:15-68).

Today, because we've chosen to disregard and disobey The Law, and mistakenly believe it's supposedly oppressive (when the exact opposite is true), we're all suffering under the injustice and oppression that are part of the punitive measures meant to correct our errant behaviour.

Hence the reason greed is held in high esteem in this world, where material wealth is obtained through theft and fraud, which has impoverished and enslaved the entire world. It couldn't be any more obvious that we are on the wrong path, and even when we watch the filthy rich suffer in their attemots to extend their pathetic lives with medical procedures and pharmaceutical drugs that poison them further, most still don't get it.

True freedom and true justice can only be found by returning to God's Law. We have exhausted every avenue of trying things our own way, and all it has ever brought us is corporate fictional debt slavery, oppression and injustice.
Right. And under "Biblical law", slave masters may keep humans, as slave property, for life, and also breed them as well. See the original post Bible verses, for which you continue to skip. Maybe since most humans reject such allowances, and have decided to do things their own way, is why things have now gone astray? Maybe it displeases God that such given allowances are now revoked or denounced by most humans. Maybe the Bible God has now cursed humanity? Maybe sanctioned chattel slavery, for some, is the way it is supposed to be?
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am For those who wish to ignore the fact that the term "employee" is just a modern day word for "slave", and don't believe that someone else using up their life energy for decades and decades, until they have no more to give and are thrown away, their scorn for truth and light is merely a reflection of their personal preferences.
You are clearly using more word play here, and nothing more. The verses in the original post are quite clear, and are not interchanging the term "employee" with the term "slave". The term 'slave', in the context for which is being given, instead refers to chattel slavery. I explained in the OP.
One cannot explain that which they clearly do not understand.
Being this is a debate, it is clear you have no valid response. Until demonstrated otherwise, the Bible endorses both 1) lifetime chattel slavery, as well as 2) slave breeding. Sure, you can cherry pick some other stuff, for which you may like... This is why I've said elsewhere, the Bible represents some "good" stuff, some "bad" stuff, some strange stuff, some wrong stuff, some contradictory stuff, etc...
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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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POI wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:11 pm
A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 5:32 pm
POI wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:58 pm
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am When someone sees everything upside down and backwards, through human eyes instead of spiritual eyes, they mistakenly believe that freedom is allegedly slavery, war is allegedly peace and that good is allegedly evil,
No, "A Freeman". I explained what Deuteronomy 15 is addressing, and you simply moved on. I also explained the intricacies of Deuteronomy 25 as well, and you simply moved on again. You are the one who is mistaken. The book you believe in specifically tells the readers that slave masters may own humans, as property, for life. Furthermore, the Bible also tells readers that slave masters may also keep slave offspring. This is made clear in the original post. You conveniently skipped those texts, to cherry pick other irrelevant and/or contradictory texts. The Bible is clear. Slave masters may keep slaves, as human property, for life, as well as breed them to have new slaves.
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am The Law promises that anyone who follows it will be rewarded with God's Blessings in abundance (Deuteronomy 28:1-14), and that those who refuse will suffer the consequences of their actions in successive punishments (Deuteronomy 28:15-68).


Today, because we've chosen to disregard and disobey The Law, and mistakenly believe it's supposedly oppressive (when the exact opposite is true), we're all suffering under the injustice and oppression that are part of the punitive measures meant to correct our errant behaviour.

Hence the reason greed is held in high esteem in this world, where material wealth is obtained through theft and fraud, which has impoverished and enslaved the entire world. It couldn't be any more obvious that we are on the wrong path, and even when we watch the filthy rich suffer in their attemots to extend their pathetic lives with medical procedures and pharmaceutical drugs that poison them further, most still don't get it.

True freedom and true justice can only be found by returning to God's Law. We have exhausted every avenue of trying things our own way, and all it has ever brought us is corporate fictional debt slavery, oppression and injustice.
Right. And under "Biblical law", slave masters may keep humans, as slave property, for life, and also breed them as well. See the original post Bible verses, for which you continue to skip. Maybe since most humans reject such allowances, and have decided to do things their own way, is why things have now gone astray? Maybe it displeases God that such given allowances are now revoked or denounced by most humans. Maybe the Bible God has now cursed humanity? Maybe sanctioned chattel slavery, for some, is the way it is supposed to be?
A Freeman wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 2:24 am For those who wish to ignore the fact that the term "employee" is just a modern day word for "slave", and don't believe that someone else using up their life energy for decades and decades, until they have no more to give and are thrown away, their scorn for truth and light is merely a reflection of their personal preferences.
You are clearly using more word play here, and nothing more. The verses in the original post are quite clear, and are not interchanging the term "employee" with the term "slave". The term 'slave', in the context for which is being given, instead refers to chattel slavery. I explained in the OP.
One cannot explain that which they clearly do not understand.
Being this is a debate, it is clear you have no valid response. Until demonstrated otherwise, the Bible endorses both 1) lifetime chattel slavery, as well as 2) slave breeding. Sure, you can cherry pick some other stuff, for which you may like... This is why I've said elsewhere, the Bible represents some "good" stuff, some "bad" stuff, some strange stuff, some wrong stuff, some contradictory stuff, etc...
This isn't a debate. You've already been shown your error, and what The Law actually provides and how it compares with our current system, and have chosen to ignore it, while hypocritically accusing me of doing what you are actually doing (e.g. cherry picking, pretending that pointing out our present reality is "word play", etc.).

Are you currently an employee/slave? Is that perhaps why you're having such a difficult time accepting that you've spent your entire life in slavery, and why you're attacking the ONLY path to TRUE Freedom under The Perfect Law that our Creator gave us?

If you want to prove something does or doesn't work, then you have to test it. If you haven't put God's Law into practice in your own life, how do you really expect to be able to explain to others how it actually works (or why it allegedly doesn't)?

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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:40 pm This isn't a debate. You've already been shown your error,
I have been shown no such thing. I countered both Lev. 15 (in context), as well as Deut. 25, (in context). The Bible sanctions both volitional servitude, as well as chattel slavery. The Bible instructs parameters for both categories. You have since offered nothing to rebuttal these clearly given distinctions. See the OP for details. For which you still have skipped.
A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:40 pm what The Law actually provides and how it compares with our current system, and have chosen to ignore it, while hypocritically accusing me of doing what you are actually doing (e.g. cherry picking, pretending that pointing out our present reality is "word play", etc.).
Exodus 21 and Leviticus 25 offers many specifics. I'm pointing out the specifics in which you do not like, which is why you must spin them accordingly. Again, please see what this topic is specifically addressing. Until you address the OP, you have offered nothing but a big fat juicy strawman argument. See below, with your word play, for which I will now have to address yet again.
A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:40 pm Are you currently an employee/slave?
You are offering apples verses oranges. Is a lifetime slave, who is also deemed the master's property - (as expressed in Lev. 25:46-48 for example), also given vacation time, sick leave, a pension, promotion(s), general labor laws, the chance to quit if they do not like their place of employment, retirement, etc? Of course not. Why? Because you have offered a complete false equivalency.
A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:40 pm Is that perhaps why you're having such a difficult time accepting that you've spent your entire life in slavery, and why you're attacking the ONLY path to TRUE Freedom under The Perfect Law that our Creator gave us?
Not even close. The purpose of this thread is to demonstrate that the authors of the book you worship condone 1) lifetime chattel slavery and 2) slave breeding. Which then requires later apologists, such as yourself, to offer really bad counter arguments -- like the one you are offering directly above here.
A Freeman wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 6:40 pm If you haven't put God's Law into practice in your own life, how do you really expect to be able to explain to others how it actually works (or why it allegedly doesn't)?
Well, in some cases, the believers can't. A perspective slave master can no longer keep humans as property for life. A perspective slave master can no longer keep a slave's offspring. What is our world coming to? God okayed it, and now we fallible humans reject it...?
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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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The following excerpt is from:

Land of the License Fee and Home of the Slave

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Why do we need so many state-issued licenses (and tributes/taxes) in a supposedly free country? Why should anyone need the state’s permission to do anything that is lawful, e.g. travel and work?

The government tells us it’s for our own protection and peace of mind. They claim chaos would ensue if not for their mandatory licensing programs, which get more expensive every year. But would it? Or is that what they would have us believe and repeat to each other to justify their own existence?

What exactly is a license and where did the idea come from for the state to set up their lucrative business selling them?

licentious |lʌɪˈsɛnʃəs| – adjective

1 promiscuous and unprincipled in sexual matters. the ruler’s tyrannical and licentious behaviour. the licentious avenues of New York City.

2 archaic disregarding accepted conventions, especially in grammar or literary style.

DERIVATIVES – licentiously adverb; licentiousness noun

ORIGIN late Middle English: from Latin licentiosus, from licentia ‘freedom’.

A license is the government’s equivalent of a catholic “indulgence” whereby you can sin, if you pay the church (or state) for a license/indulgence/permission. Further proof that there is no separation of church and state, if the tax exempt status “501(c)(3)” for “non-profit” organizations wasn’t proof enough.

indulgence |ɪnˈdʌldʒ(ə)ns| – noun

1 [ mass noun ] the action or fact of indulging: indulgence in self-pity.
• the state or attitude of being indulgent or tolerant: she regarded his affairs with a casual, slightly amused indulgence.
• [ count noun ] a thing that is indulged in; a luxury: Claire collects shoes—it is her indulgence.

2 chiefly historical (in the Roman Catholic Church) a grant by the Pope of remission of the temporal punishment in purgatory still due for sins after absolution. The unrestricted sale of indulgences by pardoners was a widespread abuse during the later Middle-Ages.

3 an extension of the time in which a bill or debt has to be paid. The notice given granted a final indulgence of four weeks.

ORIGIN late Middle English: via Old French from Latin indulgentia, from the verb indulgere (see indulge) .

Driving a vehicle is not a licentious act, and therefore does not need a “license”. Neither does having a gun, a dog, going fishing or any other thing that is not licentious, including a trade, profession or skill.

“Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property…and is regarded as inalienable”. 16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect. 202, p.987.

“The right to travel is part of the Liberty of which a citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. This Right was emerging as early as the Magna Carta.”
Kent vs. Dulles, 357; U.S.116 (1958).

No one EVER gave the state (i.e. government at the local, state or federal level) the right to destroy our inalienable rights through taxation, which is exactly what licenses do. Did you, or anyone you know vote for this?

“…It maybe said that a tax of one dollar for passing through the state cannot sensibly affect any function of government or deprive a Citizen of any valuable Right. But if a state can tax…a passenger one dollar, it can tax him a thousand dollars.”
Crandall vs. Nevada, 75 U. S. (6 Wall) 35, 46, (1867).

and…

“If the Right of passing through a state by a Citizen of the United States is one guaranteed by the Constitution, it must be sacred from state taxation.” Ibid. p47.

The same goes for professional licenses:-

“The right to follow any of the common occupations of life is an inalienable right…”

“It has been well said that ‘the property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable. The patrimony of the poor man lies in the strength and dexterity of his own hands, and to hinder his employing this strength and dexterity in what manner he thinks proper, without injury to his neighbor, is a plain violation of this most sacred property’.”
United States Supreme Court, Butcher’s Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746 (1883)

“There should be no arbitrary deprivation of Life or Liberty…” Barbier vs. Connolly, 113 U.S. 27, 31 (1885); Yick Wo vs. Hopkins, 1l8 U.S. 356 (1886).

Yet despite all of these eloquent, noble-sounding words, the state requires licenses for dozens and dozens of trades and professions, which they refer to as “occupations”.

The state (government) must think all of us are stupid, or incapable or unwilling to read the very rules they aim to enforce, because they routinely violate our sacred, God-given rights and then laugh about it, as they put our money into their pockets. Sadly, it appears their gamble is paying off, at least for now, because most not only don’t question the need for all of these license fees and taxes, but seem willing to put up with whatever the state demands, as often as they demand it, out of cowardice or laziness.

The reason they’re called “occupations” is because we’re expected to occupy a position within the evil system designed to serve the parasitic criminal class (who like it when you refer to them as “the elite”) and their puppet politicians, lawyers and judges. And to add insult to injury, THEY actually have us paying them for their permission to be their SLAVE!

THAT is what license fees and taxes are really about.

After generations of slave labor capitulating to their every demand, these extremely evil people openly and brazenly refer to us as disposable “human resources” to be used up—in their occupations and wars—and thrown away.

War = “legalized” murder. It involves the unlawful “occupation” of another country.

Taxes and license fees = “legalized” theft. NOWHERE in the One and ONLY True Law that God gave us does it grant anyone the power to take ANYTHING from another without their permission. In fact theft, in any form, is expressly prohibited (Exod. 20:15)

Legalese = redefining the common meaning of words in a deceitful attempt to legalize that which is UNLAWFUL (i.e. criminal) and to make illegal that which is LAWFUL. It is, and always has been, completely and totally LAWFUL for the people to take The Law into their own hands and to enforce it; in fact it should NEVER have been taken out of the hands of the people in the first place.

We the people have the power to dismantle this evil system and replace it with a perfect, just system that provides freedom and security for all. It’s in our hands right now, and has been for thousands of years, if only we would find the courage to use it.

The government’s power is derived solely from our obedience to it. Its wealth is derived solely from our labor. Its perceived strength is actually our strength, to give or to take away.

STOP FEEDING THE BEAST (SYSTEM).

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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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Further excerpt from:

Land of the License Fee and Home of the Slave

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The church and state/government are two heads of the very same evil beast, used by the parasitic criminal class to control, lie, cheat and steal from YOU (see Isa. 3:9-15, where the “elders” are the politicians and the “princes” are the princes of the church, i.e. the cardinals, bishops, etc.).

The evil church is still selling indulgences today. Every time you contribute to their coffers you fund another paedophile priest and their legal representation. Or worse. And despite what these self-proclaimed salvation-brokers falsely claim, no one can buy the stairway to heaven. If the church really was of God, their leaders would publicly stone every paedophile and anyone who tried to cover up their crimes (see King of kings’ Bible John 8:35-36, John 8:44-45 KJV for proof of who the churches really work for – a cover-up is a LIE).

The evil state is still selling licenses that require ever-increasing levels of maintenance at the expense of the licensee. Every time protection money is paid into the system for their permission to continue slaving away just to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you’re funding your own demise, whether you realize it or not.

Funding ANY organization that does evil to others is the same as personally doing that evil. It’s a self-feeding, iterative cycle that not only causes evil to flourish exponentially, but feeds back onto those who originated it. Perfect karma (Gal. 6:7).

The American Declaration of Independence (independence from government tyranny and oppression) states the following:-

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with certain UNALIENABLE Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their JUST powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


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We’ve had 6000 years of man-made governments, in a variety of different forms and NONE of them have EVER been just. It’s a 100% fail-rate, so if you’re hoping this will somehow turn out differently this time, then you’re not thinking clearly. The classic definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

The Solution should likewise be self-evident, and it’s exactly as expressed in the Declaration of Independence: get rid of ALL of these destructive man-made rules and failed attempts to govern ourselves without our Creator’s help, and go back to His Law, and His Law ONLY, which is where ALL of our unalienable rights originate.

God gave us His Law to protect us from all of this evil and to keep us FREE. Free from fear, free from injustice, free from war, free from poverty, free from crime, free from debt, and free from ALL tyranny and oppression. TRUE FREEDOM.

Under our Creator’s Law, it is a CAPITAL OFFENSE to be an attorney, politician, legislator, bankster, war-monger or any other con-artist/thief who profits from human suffering. But it’s up to us to use that FREE GIFT, by keeping and enforcing His Law ONLY.

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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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And one final excerpt from...

Land of the License Fee and Home of the Slave

...to hopefully illustrate the obvious plight that we find ourselves in under the oppression and injustice of man-made legislation, where we are being licensed and taxed to death:

A partial list of professions requiring licensing:-

Accountants & Auditors (CPA’s)
Acupuncturists
A/C, Heating & Refrigeration Mechanics & Installers (HVAC Refrig Contractor)
Architects
Athletic Trainers
Automotive Repair Dealers
Automotive Repair Technicians
Attorneys (including judges, magistrates and legislators)
Barbers
Brake and Lamp Adjusters
Cannabis Distributors
Cannabis Retailers
Cemetery Brokers
Cemetery Managers
Cemetery Salespersons
Combative Sports Promoters
Cosmetologists
Child Care Administrators
Chiropractors
Clinical Laboratory Cytotechnologists
Clinical Laboratory Medical Technicians/Med-Techs
Clinical Laboratory Phlebotomists
Clinical Laboratory Scientists
Clinical Laboratory Technicians
Compliance Officers (Code Enforcement Officer)
Counselors, Chemical Dependency (Chemical Dependency Counselor)
Counselors, Professionals
Court Reporters
Dental Assistants
Dental Hygienists
Dentists
Dietitians and Nutritionists
Drinking Water Utility Plant Operators
Emergency Care Attendants (ECA)
Emergency Medical Technicians and Paramedics (EMT, EMT-1, EMT-P)
Emergency Care Attendants (ECA)
Engineers (Professional Engineers)
Fire Fighters (Fire Protection Personnel/Firefighters)
Fire Inspectors (Fire Protection System Contractors)
Funeral Directors & Morticians (Embalmers)
Genetic Counselors
Geologists
Geophysicists
Hearing Instrument Fitter/Dispensers
Histologic Technicians
Insurance Adjusters, Examiners, & Investigators
Insurance Sales Agents & Placers
Interior Designers
Interpreters
Kinesiologists
Kinesiotherapists
Landscape Architects
Landscape Construction-Irrigators
Land Surveyors and Mapping Scientists
Landscape Architects
Leisure Professionals
Librarians, Professional
Locksmiths
Marriage & Family Therapists
Medical Physicists, Professional
Massage Scientists
Massage Therapists
Medical Radiologic Technologists
Medical Therapists
Nursing Aides, Orderlies, Midwives & Attendants
Nursing Facility Administrators
Nurses, Licensed Vocational (LVN)
Nurses, Registered (RN)
Medicine & Health Services Managers
Meteorologists
Music Therapists
Occupational Therapists, Assistants
On-Site Sewage Facility Installers
Opticians, Dispensing & Measuring
Optometrists
Orthoptists
Orthotists/Prosthetists, Technicians & Assistants
Osteopathic Physicians
Pathologists
Pathologists’ Assistants
Pawn Brokers/Lenders
Perfusionist/Cardiology Technologists
Pest Controllers, Applicators & Assistants (Commercial)
Pest Controllers, Applicators & Assistants (Non-commercial)
Pharmacists
Physical Therapists
Physical Therapist Assistants
Physicians and Surgeons
Physician Assistants
Plumbers, Pipefitters, and Steamfitters
Podiatrists (Podiatric Physician)
Policy Enforcement Officers & Police Detectives
Polygraph Examiners
Private Investigators/Security Guards
Psychologists
Psychological Associates
Specialists in School Psychology
Real Estate Brokers
Real Estate Sales Agents
Real Estate Inspectors
Real Estate Construction & Building Inspectors
Recreation Therapists
Respiratory Therapists/Respiratory Care Practitioner
Sanitarians
Sales Agent in Securities, Commodities, Financial Services
Securities Dealers/Investment Advisors
Social Workers & Associates
Surgical Technologists
Social Worker, Master Levels
Solid Waste Technicians
Speech-Language Pathologists & Audiologists
Tax Appraisers
Tax Examiners
Tax Assessor-Collectors
Tax Revenue Agents
Teachers
Underground Storage Tank Installers
Underground Storage Tank Removers
UST On-Site Installer or Remover Supervisors
Veterinarians and Veterinary Inspectors
Water Well Driller/Pump Installers

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TAXES!
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Tax his land, tax his bed,
Tax the table at which he’s fed.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes are the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirt,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his cigars, tax his beers,
If he cries, then tax his tears.

Tax his car, tax his gas,
Find other ways to tax his ass
Tax all he has then let him know
That you won’t be done till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers, then tax him some more,
Tax him till he’s good and sore.
Then tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he’s laid.

Put these words upon his tomb,
“Taxes drove me to my doom…”
When he’s gone, Do not relax,
It’s time to apply the inheritance tax.

A partial list of taxes and license fees

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Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL (Commercial Driver’s License) Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Diesel Fuel Tax (as high as 74.7 cents per gallon)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (as high as 58.2 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Real Estate Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
School Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENT: Not one of these taxes (thefts) existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

Studying this information, including all of the referenced materials, and putting it into practice, will fulfill the only REAL requirement there is for Continuing Educational Credits/Units in all professions.

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Re: "Slavery" in the Bible

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P.S. Jesus was the original tax protester!

Matthew 22:15-22
22:15 Then went the politicians, and took counsel how they might entangle him in [his] talk.
22:16 And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest The Way of God in Truth, neither carest thou for any [man]: for thou regardest not the person of men.
22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
22:18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, [ye] hypocrites?
22:19 Show me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription?
22:21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; AND UNTO GOD THE THINGS THAT ARE GOD’S.
22:22 When they had heard [these words], they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.

Verse 21 above is often misquoted as: “render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s…”, which omits the most important part of the verse and completely changes its intended message (i.e. satanically making it appear to say the opposite of what it actually says).

As created human+Beings, EVERYTHING we have belongs to our Creator, including our very lives. So if we render unto God what is His—EVERYTHING—what does that leave for Caesar? NOTHING.

THINK about it.

It is also noteworthy that Christ-Jesus very plainly stated the following about The Law that God gave us, which will NEVER go away:

Matthew 5:17-19
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am NOT come to destroy, but to fulfill [to fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the LEAST in The Kingdom of heaven*: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.

*the lowest of the low in God's Eyes

Hopefully, these four posts (this one and the three above it) should illustrate how utterly ridiculous it is for someone to come and whine about God's Perfect Royal Law of Liberty, and falsely claim it supports life-long slavery, when God's Law is, in fact, there to FREE us from ALL forms of THEFT, including being licensed and taxed to death.

P.P.S. Please also see: viewtopic.php?p=1171534#p1171534
...which seems to have been completely ignored, along with everything else shared above about our current system of institutionalized slavery.

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[Replying to A Freeman in post #674]

Nothing in this response addresses post 673, nor does it address the OP. Yet again, does the Bible endorse and/or condone lifetime chattel slavery and slave breeding? The answer is yes for both. You know this, which is why must attempt to detour or derail this topic by bringing up what you are bringing up.
In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:

"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."

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In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:

"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."

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In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:

"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."

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