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How would your life change if you were to learn that the resurrection of Jesus never occurred?
What If There Had Been No Resurrection?
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Re: What If There Had Been No Resurrection?
Post #91Waterfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:22 pm Namaskaram JW
But you believe God separated him from his human body and gave him a spirit body.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:47 amYou may not be saying that but I am. I dont believe any part of a human survives his death to "live on"
I never said the word "separated" that implies at least 2 parts to a person. A person is a body that is alive. I don’t believe a person that dies "separates" into two parts.
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Post #92No I'm not saying that at all and I do not believe "that Jesus lived on after his human body died"
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Post #93According to the Bible the spirit world is for God and the angels; humans were created to live forever on this material , physical planet (earth).
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Post #94I didn't say reincarnation is impossible for God, I said I don't believe in reincarnation; my reason is that reincarnation is not a bible teaching and I have no reason to believe such a notion is in God's purpose for humans. Or that it ever happens.
Also I suspect reincarnation is based on the existence of an "immoral soul" and that is not a biblical teaching
The bible presents Jesus as being firmly against false teachings and for the writings iof the Hebrew Prophets; since reincarnation is in opposition to scripture yes, I believe he would have been against this teaching.
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Re: What If There Had Been No Resurrection?
Post #95Namaskaram TRANSPONDER
https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/wisdom/ ... f-sadhguru
And this book...
https://www.toward-the-light.net/
Maybe you will like this too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5WM5yIe890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71huh17NqaI
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I am a big fan of Sadhguru...TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:12 pm [Replying to Waterfall in post #84]
I enjoyed that talk a lot more than I expected. Thought provoking. Way off topic, mind. And like a lot of philosophy, not considering whether science can tell us more about our human abilities than we may suppose. But yes, it is unsound to suppose a miracle or a god where we don't yet understand. When we do, it becomes nature and science. We move from animal instinct to human reason and maybe the 'divine' of the most advanced thought we can do. We know and we don't; we know how the world works well enough to see that a god is not needed, but there is still a lot left to know. Everything, food, soil, fertilizer, is all the same, star - stuff. The necessary elements made by supernovae, or we wouldn't be here. Is that not a miracle? No...it is nature, but truly amazing.
https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/wisdom/ ... f-sadhguru
And this book...
https://www.toward-the-light.net/
Maybe you will like this too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5WM5yIe890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71huh17NqaI
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Waterfall
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Re: What If There Had Been No Resurrection?
Post #96[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #94]
Namaskaram JW
I have said what I wanted to say and so have you? The reader can think for him-/herself. Shall we put children into the world? Do we have a choice? Can we live with the consequences? When do we become grownups and responsible...
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Namaskaram JW
I have said what I wanted to say and so have you? The reader can think for him-/herself. Shall we put children into the world? Do we have a choice? Can we live with the consequences? When do we become grownups and responsible...
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Re: What If There Had Been No Resurrection?
Post #97The question whether or not to have children is a personal one; the bible does not mandate marriage or children for Christians.
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Post #98Namaskaram JW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_fruitful_and_multiply
Maybe you have forgotten my question? Why did they need (I have changed the word "have" to "need". I am not sure which is correct? Maybe both?) to say this...
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I do not believe in the story about Adam and Eve, but what does the Bible say to people...JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:57 pmThe question whether or not to have children is a personal one; the bible does not mandate marriage or children for Christians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_fruitful_and_multiply
Maybe you have forgotten my question? Why did they need (I have changed the word "have" to "need". I am not sure which is correct? Maybe both?) to say this...
Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One
Because...Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah
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Post #99I do not recall asking you if you did.
Yderligere læsning: Adam og Eva — har de virkelig levet?
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Post #100Some translations remove the Divine name [the personal name of God] from their translations.
Some translations do NOT remove the Divine name [the personal name of God] from their translations.
JEHOVAH’S WITNESS
Lær mere Har Gud et navn?
https://www.jw.org/da/bibliotek/film/Go ... guds-navn/
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