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The Hubble Telescope

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Are we letting the Hubble expire because of pressure from the religious right? Do creationists want to kill the telescope because it has done so much to dispel their beliefs? Are they worried that the Hubble will soon discover the Secret of Creation, and that it won't be god?

It seems hard to justify to me to let this project collapse after spending so much on it for all these years just because of a temporary shortfall in funds. The Hubble has been extremely good value for money, IMHO, and would certainly continue to be. Why the rush to kill it?

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juliod wrote:Are we letting the Hubble expire because of pressure from the religious right? Do creationists want to kill the telescope because it has done so much to dispel their beliefs? Are they worried that the Hubble will soon discover the Secret of Creation, and that it won't be god?
It seems hard to justify to me to let this project collapse after spending so much on it for all these years just because of a temporary shortfall in funds. The Hubble has been extremely good value for money, IMHO, and would certainly continue to be. Why the rush to kill it?
Are you serious? Do you honestly believe NASA cares what creationists think?

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There are already more powerful instruments on the way, like the Terrestrial Planet Finder observatories for example.

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I'm a creationist and I like the Hubble telescope. Personally I don't think it has done any harm to the biblical view.

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I like it, too, and it gives such snazzy pictures! I think the difficulty is partly financial, and partly the worries over the shuttle. ...and maybe worries that if they screw up a simple thing like fixing the Hubble, it's a sure sign that the Mars Mission will be questioned.
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juliod wrote:Are we letting the Hubble expire because of pressure from the religious right? Do creationists want to kill the telescope because it has done so much to dispel their beliefs? Are they worried that the Hubble will soon discover the Secret of Creation, and that it won't be god?

It seems hard to justify to me to let this project collapse after spending so much on it for all these years just because of a temporary shortfall in funds. The Hubble has been extremely good value for money, IMHO, and would certainly continue to be. Why the rush to kill it?

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I hope they do bring it down and something more advanced up. How old is that thing now? Like 10 years?
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Are you serious? Do you honestly believe NASA cares what creationists think?
NASA, like the rest of the government, does not have control over it's own budget. That is determined by the Whitehouse, which is currently full of you-know-what...

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I think the difficulty is partly financial, and partly the worries over the shuttle. ...and maybe worries that if they screw up a simple thing like fixing the Hubble, it's a sure sign that the Mars Mission will be questioned.
The "safety" issue smacks of pretext. And if they can't afford to maintain the Hubble (and are actually letting it expire earlier than planned) then we certainly aren't going to Mars. A manned Mars mission would be scientifically useless anyway.
How old is that thing now? Like 10 years?
More than that, I think. But it is still extremely useful. Much still could be done with it. We could continue to build on the return-on-investment.
I'm a creationist and I like the Hubble telescope. Personally I don't think it has done any harm to the biblical view.
But of course it does, YEC. It's one of the principle means of refining the age of the universe.

Overall, I think it needs an explanation why we would make such an obviously poor decision. I mean, we are still collecting data from Voyager I and II.

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How old is that thing now? Like 10 years?
More than that, I think. But it is still extremely useful. Much still could be done with it. We could continue to build on the return-on-investment.
Yea...i guess they could do an upgrade to it. Either way, I hope they don't ditch the overall program...that would be a shame :(
We get some really nice data and photos from it.
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i guess they could do an upgrade to it.
It's not a question of upgrading. It's one of carrying out a planned maintenance.

It saves a sum of money that it insignificant compared to, say, a week in Iraq or a single B-2 bomber. And ends one of the best programs NASA has run.

It needs a real explanation that we have not gotten yet.

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