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| Zzyzx Savant
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: Help me catch up |
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When I left on sabbatical a few months ago it appeared as though Theist "arguments" were weak and unsupported. Has anything changed? Are there powerful Theist debaters (besides Cnorman, Vanguard, Teslem, MagusYanam and a few others that I cannot now recall)?
Are many or most still presenting the typical unsupported claims, dodging questions, using dishonorable tactics? |
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Not really much has changed regarding the veracity of claims.
I've seen a new (to me) argument that claims can't be shown true because science hasn't reached a stage where they can.
Man, it's great having you back! |
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Help me catch up |
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| Zzyzx wrote: | .
When I left on sabbatical a few months ago it appeared as though Theist "arguments" were weak and unsupported. Has anything changed? Are there powerful Theist debaters (besides Cnorman, Vanguard, Teslem, MagusYanam and a few others that I cannot now recall)?
Are many or most still presenting the typical unsupported claims, dodging questions, using dishonorable tactics? |
Hi again Zzyzx...not much has changed. The more 'powerful' theist debaters you mention tend not to engage in the more 'down in the ditches' discussions.
As can be expected there often comes by a fired up christian who has just read the works - or more often than not - heard of some apologists writings and beleives they are bringing some new found revelation to us less than erudite heathens. They seem mystified when many of these very same heathens are not only aware of the aplogetics but knbow more about it than they do.
Then of course are there are those who decry the evil of 'evilution' - again without actually knowing anything about it having been 'educated' in the topic by AIG. |
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| OnceConvinced Prodigy
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| I've been out of the loop too. Don't come in as much as I used to because work has cracked down on non-work related Internet usage. And I spend way too much time composing replies, so don't want to do it in my free time. Too many other things to do. But every now and then I get the hankering for debate. |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Good to see you back Zz.
Now if we can get Confused back we might move on.
It seems much is the same except I grown tired of repeating the same arguments over and over. We need some index of answers. Often someone has answered better then I remember or can repeat.
People come and go and sometimes it is like a teacher getting new students all over again each term. |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Cathar1950 wrote: |
We need some index of answers.
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We already have one. Feel free to bookmark the link and to contribute.
Good answers to repeated Theist questions. Thanks for reminding us. Let's make use of this tool. |
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| McCulloch wrote: | | Cathar1950 wrote: |
We need some index of answers.
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We already have one. Feel free to bookmark the link and to contribute.
Good answers to repeated Theist questions. Thanks for reminding us. Let's make use of this tool. |
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The Happy HumanistSite SupporterSage
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: Me too |
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OK, I'm back too.
What'd I miss? |
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Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Me too |
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| The Happy Humanist wrote: | OK, I'm back too.
What'd I miss? |
We have a new Head-to-head debate category.
Other than that, it is the same old same old. |
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