Question about hell

[notachance]

This is a question for people who believe in a literal hell:

If my son didn't believe I loved him, and in response I locked him up in the basement and tortured him, wouldn't I have proved him right?

Doesn't the fact that God is the kind of guy who would torture me, by definition make him unworthy of my love?

[Flail]

This is a question for people who believe in a literal hell:

If my son didn't believe I loved him, and in response I locked him up in the basement and tortured him, wouldn't I have proved him right?

Doesn't the fact that God is the kind of guy who would torture me, by definition make him unworthy of my love?

I fear you have confused this God with having something to do with Christianity. Where did that come from?

[MyReality]

This is a question for people who believe in a literal hell:

If my son didn't believe I loved him, and in response I locked him up in the basement and tortured him, wouldn't I have proved him right?

Doesn't the fact that God is the kind of guy who would torture me, by definition make him unworthy of my love?

Yes.

I tend to think of it this way.

Imagine being stalked, you don't know who, and don't really know why. He/she will send you letters demanding your love and attention and demand you tell others about your love this person. You do not, next thing you know your in a dark room being tortured in the most inhuman way for not spreading the information about his/hers love and kindness and all forgiving nature.

Creepy i know.


As for hell itself, well what is not known is that hell is closed to the public, so is heaven, for no soul will enter heaven or hell until that soul is judged by the book of life. Or something similar to that.

Seriously though, until the second coming of Christ, no one goes into heaven, and no one goes to hell. I always wonder why no one pays attention to this.

[notachance]

This is a question for people who believe in a literal hell:

If my son didn't believe I loved him, and in response I locked him up in the basement and tortured him, wouldn't I have proved him right?

Doesn't the fact that God is the kind of guy who would torture me, by definition make him unworthy of my love?

I fear you have confused this God with having something to do with Christianity. Where did that come from?

I wrote at the top of my post that this is a question for people who believe in a literal hell.

Are you alleging that there aren't people who claim to be Christians and who claim to believe that there is a literal hell?

The only thing I'm confused by is your grammar. I swear, I barely understand what you're trying to say.

[notachance]

This is a question for people who believe in a literal hell:

If my son didn't believe I loved him, and in response I locked him up in the basement and tortured him, wouldn't I have proved him right?

Doesn't the fact that God is the kind of guy who would torture me, by definition make him unworthy of my love?

Yes.

I tend to think of it this way.

Imagine being stalked, you don't know who, and don't really know why. He/she will send you letters demanding your love and attention and demand you tell others about your love this person. You do not, next thing you know your in a dark room being tortured in the most inhuman way for not spreading the information about his/hers love and kindness and all forgiving nature.

Creepy i know.

Yes, I heard this letters from a stalker analogy. It's a good one. Somebody called in at the Atheist Experience with it.

[Question Everything]

Even those who say that no one goes to hell because Jesus died for everybody (Universalists) still have to admit that Christian theology says that we are deserving of hell - an infinite punishment for finite wrongs decreed by a supposedly just God. For some reason the only alternative to an eternal torture furnace is to let people off scott free, there can't possibly be anything in between.

How about a finite punishment for finite wrongs? Wouldn't that make more sense?

[notachance]

Even those who say that no one goes to hell because Jesus died for everybody (Universalists) still have to admit that Christian theology says that we are deserving of hell - an infinite punishment for finite wrongs decreed by a supposedly just God. For some reason the only alternative to an eternal torture furnace is to let people off scott free, there can't possibly be anything in between.

How about a finite punishment for finite wrongs? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Yes, I would agree that the concept of eternal punishment, under any shape or form, is lethal to the concept of a just God. Christianity is internally contradictory and fundamentally flawed.

[Question Everything]

Even those who say that no one goes to hell because Jesus died for everybody (Universalists) still have to admit that Christian theology says that we are deserving of hell - an infinite punishment for finite wrongs decreed by a supposedly just God. For some reason the only alternative to an eternal torture furnace is to let people off scott free, there can't possibly be anything in between.

How about a finite punishment for finite wrongs? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Yes, I would agree that the concept of eternal punishment, under any shape or form, is lethal to the concept of a just God. Christianity is internally contradictory and fundamentally flawed.

That is one thing I have seen of Christianity, the more you look at it the less sense it makes. I guess that is why the church made "faith" such a priority. Think about it. The only way to get otherwise rational adults to swallow this nonsense is to highly value those who believe without questioning.

[notachance]

Even those who say that no one goes to hell because Jesus died for everybody (Universalists) still have to admit that Christian theology says that we are deserving of hell - an infinite punishment for finite wrongs decreed by a supposedly just God. For some reason the only alternative to an eternal torture furnace is to let people off scott free, there can't possibly be anything in between.

How about a finite punishment for finite wrongs? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Yes, I would agree that the concept of eternal punishment, under any shape or form, is lethal to the concept of a just God. Christianity is internally contradictory and fundamentally flawed.

That is one thing I have seen of Christianity, the more you look at it the less sense it makes. I guess that is why the church made "faith" such a priority. Think about it. The only way to get otherwise rational adults to swallow this nonsense is to highly value those who believe without questioning.

That's the entire concept behind all religions

[Question Everything]

Even those who say that no one goes to hell because Jesus died for everybody (Universalists) still have to admit that Christian theology says that we are deserving of hell - an infinite punishment for finite wrongs decreed by a supposedly just God. For some reason the only alternative to an eternal torture furnace is to let people off scott free, there can't possibly be anything in between.

How about a finite punishment for finite wrongs? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Yes, I would agree that the concept of eternal punishment, under any shape or form, is lethal to the concept of a just God. Christianity is internally contradictory and fundamentally flawed.

That is one thing I have seen of Christianity, the more you look at it the less sense it makes. I guess that is why the church made "faith" such a priority. Think about it. The only way to get otherwise rational adults to swallow this nonsense is to highly value those who believe without questioning.

That's the entire concept behind all religions

I wouldn't say all "religions", I would say any belief systems not based on science, and by "belief" I am referring to anything relating to the physical universe and how it came to be. I am not referring to morality, ethics, or any other abstract concept..