WHAT IS YOUR TARGET?

Yusef · Post by **Yusef** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:06 am

Everyone says "We are on the truth"!
So nobody cans find the real truth!
because we have just the parental religious doctrine!
Just that has a way! and we should supposing did had any religions and beliefs! and now we wana choose the best religion and belief for ourselves!
* Notic: We should clear ourselves from any Arrogance and blindly Dogma.
also we should research RELIGIONS' DOCTRINE! no research RELIGIONS' BELIEVERS! because maybe they don't act their religions!!

Moses Yoder · Post by **Moses Yoder** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:18 am

So basically you are saying there is only one truth, and everybody needs to find it, and you seem to think you have it. How do you determine what the truth is? For instance, if it is true that God exists, how do you prove it? If you can't prove He exists, how can you prove His character? It stands to reasont hat different people who come from different environments and have inherited different traits from their parents would have different opinions of what is true. That is what makes a place like this interesting. If everyone just copied and pasted the same post, nobody would post here. That is part of the reason why I am here by the way, in search of truth.

spayne · Post by **spayne** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:27 am

Yusef wrote:Everyone says "We are on the truth"!
So nobody cans find the real truth!
because we have just the parental religious doctrine!
Just that has a way! and we should supposing did had any religions and beliefs! and now we wana choose the best religion and belief for ourselves!
* Notic: We should clear ourselves from any Arrogance and blindly Dogma.
also we should research RELIGIONS' DOCTRINE! no research RELIGIONS' BELIEVERS! because maybe they don't act their religions!!

Truth is not an idea or a theory. Truth is person, and his name is Jesus Christ. Jesus said that He is the Truth, and that once you come to know the Truth (ie. Him) it would set you free. Free from philosophical and religious indoctrination, dogma and oppression; free from the sin that enslaves people. Free to live, free to give, free to be, free to love Him. And this is why I joined this site: to tell people about Jesus and defend his name in the best way that I can. It's not about religion. It's not about debating the truth. It's about coming to know the Savior of the world who came to set us free and show us the path to life abundant: a life lived in and for the Lord.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:43 am

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sleepyhead · Post by **sleepyhead** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:11 am

Hello Yusef,

Actually instead of truth I look for coherency. Our the claims being made coherent. We may not be able to know if something is true but we can make a decision with regards to coherency.

Yusef · Post by **Yusef** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:54 pm

Hello,
If you claim that you are on the right way, so you should guide others!
Do you want to anothers will go to hell?? and just you and your believers will go to the paradise??
We are from the generation of Aadam & Havva and or probably you are from the generation of Prophet Abraham! and we are cousin! Do you will be content if anothers will go to hell with unknowing??

Yusef · Post by **Yusef** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:50 pm

Moses Yoder wrote: ...For instance, if it is true that God exists, how do you prove it? If you can't prove He exists, how can you prove His character...

A person asked The Imam Sadegh(a.s): If God exists, how do you prove it??
The Imam answered: "Do you ever gone to the depth of the sky and or the depth of the earth and had seen that there isn't God??..."

Moses Yoder · Post by **Moses Yoder** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:01 pm

I actually think proselytizing is against the rules here. You might have to look up that word. You would get kicked off the site for not obeying the rules, which would be a reversal if you are trying to win others to Christ. I think people expect Christians to follow the rules. It's kind of hard to know all the rules, but if you break one you learn. If you continue breaking them, you get banned, which doesn't look good.

I have not been under the Earth yet, nor all the way through the sea, so have not seen God. I don't believe there will ever be proof God exists while we are alive on earth.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:20 am

spayne wrote:
Yusef wrote:Everyone says "We are on the truth"!
So nobody cans find the real truth!
because we have just the parental religious doctrine!
Just that has a way! and we should supposing did had any religions and beliefs! and now we wana choose the best religion and belief for ourselves!
* Notic: We should clear ourselves from any Arrogance and blindly Dogma.
also we should research RELIGIONS' DOCTRINE! no research RELIGIONS' BELIEVERS! because maybe they don't act their religions!!
Truth is not an idea or a theory. Truth is person, and his name is Jesus Christ. Jesus said that He is the Truth, and that once you come to know the Truth (ie. Him) it would set you free. Free from philosophical and religious indoctrination, dogma and oppression; free from the sin that enslaves people. Free to live, free to give, free to be, free to love Him. And this is why I joined this site: to tell people about Jesus and defend his name in the best way that I can. It's not about religion. It's not about debating the truth. It's about coming to know the Savior of the world who came to set us free and show us the path to life abundant: a life lived in and for the Lord.

Truth is a pathless land. The truth will not set you free - truthfullness will set you free.

While I have no doubt you sincerely believe what you claim to believe, I do not hold it to be any more or less than thet...a belief.

Through 40+ years of study, meditation and self inquiry I have come to the realization that the nature of our being is, and can only be, Awareness...seeking truth outside of this is illusion.

The Jewish yogi you call Jesus knew this.

Yusef · Post by **Yusef** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:43 am

In the Islamic doctrines the human is best God's creature! even better than the Angels and Jenns!
The history says us the mankind has could be able miracles!
Do you know "Asef-ben-Barkhya", the delegate of Solomon who was stronger than a strong Jenn??
Why the Prophets and Imams and Yogies and also the followers of them who were high-level men, but had very simple lifes??
When many Jewish, Christian, Yogi,... people had came with The Imams and told them: We are most excellent scholars in ourselves religions in the world, and they had discuss with them, then had been converted and had told: You are God really![Na'udoBAllah]!!
So the mankind mights be greater than the Angels, and also mights be less than Animals...

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