Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logic?

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Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logic?

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jimvansage wrote: I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*
Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
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McCulloch wrote: Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
I hold that precisely the opposite can be shown beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'd be glad to debate anyone on that particular topic.

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Divine Insight, will you clarify the position you wish to debate?

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Divine Insight wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
I hold that precisely the opposite can be shown beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'd be glad to debate anyone on that particular topic.
Hello McCulloch and DI,

The bible is a collection of books. The NT portion are considered part of the bible because some council somewhere decided they liked what was in them. By linking them all together if there is a problem with one of the books then they all fail but doesn't provide an accurate evaluation of the individual books which make up the bible.
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McCulloch wrote:
jimvansage wrote: I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*
Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
Since we cannot see the spirit world, it seems to me the logical deduction would be that the Bible was written by men, perhaps with influence from God. I do not believe it can be shown by logical deduction that the Bible is God's word. I would love to see that done though, it would help me out a lot.
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[color=red]Moses Yoder[/color] wrote: Since we cannot see the spirit world . . .
This statement begs the question against those of us who disbelieve in the "spirit world." Why believe such a thing exists, especially considering there is no evidence for its existence?
[color=blue]Moses Yoder[/color] wrote: . . . it seems to me the logical deduction would be that the Bible was written by men, perhaps with influence from God. I do not believe it can be shown by logical deduction that the Bible is God's word.
This seems reasonable :).

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Haven wrote:
[color=red]Moses Yoder[/color] wrote: Since we cannot see the spirit world . . .
This statement begs the question against those of us who disbelieve in the "spirit world." Why believe such a thing exists, especially considering there is no evidence for its existence?
I am not going to argue this point in this thread, or maybe in any thread. I believe their is plenty of evidence for the spirit world. I think Wiccans do as well. If you go to Amazon and do a search in books for "Life after Death" or "Out of Body Experiences" or "Near Death Experiences" you will find lots of evidence. I once read a book about meditating in such a fashion that your spirit leaves your body and it didn't take me long to get so freaked out when doing this that I quit. I also experienced this when training my mind to work like a computer. It seems to me there is something more than atoms in there.
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Moses Yoder wrote:
McCulloch wrote:
jimvansage wrote: I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*
Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
Since we cannot see the spirit world, it seems to me the logical deduction would be that the Bible was written by men, perhaps with influence from God. I do not believe it can be shown by logical deduction that the Bible is God's word. I would love to see that done though, it would help me out a lot.
You change your story every five minutes. In the flat earth thread you stated god was the author explicitly.

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Nickman wrote:
Moses Yoder wrote:
McCulloch wrote:
jimvansage wrote: I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*
Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
Since we cannot see the spirit world, it seems to me the logical deduction would be that the Bible was written by men, perhaps with influence from God. I do not believe it can be shown by logical deduction that the Bible is God's word. I would love to see that done though, it would help me out a lot.
You change your story every five minutes. In the flat earth thread you stated god was the author explicitly.
I am getting sick and tired of you not reading the actual words I write and then telling me I am changing my story. Here, for instance, I say the logical deduction is that the Bible was written by men. How in the world would anyone with a smidge of intelligence read that to say "I believe the Bible was written by men"? Answer me that please. When you accuse me of changing my story you need to post both of the stories I wrote, quoted so I can't change it, and then show me how I changed my story. If you insist on continuing these accusations without evidence I will be forced to report you to the moderators. You assumed I use human logic to make my deductions concerning the Bible, which is a false assumption.
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Moses Yoder wrote:
McCulloch wrote:
jimvansage wrote: I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*
Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?
Since we cannot see the spirit world...
A more correct statement would be: "Since I cannot see the spirit world...." as I'm sure you know there are those of us who claim not only this ability, but other abilities as well.

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