Paul's gospel must be accepted

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Paul's gospel must be accepted

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Paul’s gospel must be accepted, it must be believed today, and you can be sure that confusion concerning that gospel through the use of a counterfeit gospel; a gospel that looks so much like Paul’s gospel that you’d not know the difference, if you didn’t clearly know Paul’s gospel, will be Satan’s focus in this age of grace.

One of Satan’s purpose in this age of grace is to confuse Paul’s gospel with a gospel so nearly to it, and there are many people out there today saying all you have to do is to believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and you’re saved. They believe this in almost every church across the board that Christ died, was buried and rose again, but what do they believe was accomplished by that death, burial and resurrection?

In their minds, they are separating themselves for God by their sin, and Paul is saying that God has already reconciled you where your sins are concerned. God is reconciled where the sins of the world are concerned, because he imputed those sins to Christ, that all who would believe what he imputed to Christ, that that resolved the sin issue forever, and are now joined to his son and have his righteousness freely counted to them, or imputed to their account.

Paul called it the ministry of reconciliation, Christ fulfilled the law for us, so we are identified with the righteousness of Christ the moment we take God at his word, obedient to the faith, concerning what Christ accomplished on our behalf. Today our service comes not out of apprehension to any of those things; our service today comes based solely on our appreciation for what Christ has already done.



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I do not accept the Gospel of Paul at all! And being based from the followings:

Item 1: Paul has left the original Gospel
Item 2: Much which was written by Paul allegedly; date from later times.
Item 3: In many quotations Paul was translated wrongly.
Item 4: I do not believe in the Bible any more.

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newnature wrote: Paul’s gospel must be accepted, it must be believed today,
No it does not have to be, as there is no good reasion you have to do so.

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It's awfully interesting that Satan, who by rights must be cleverer than the cleverest human, always acts in manners that are immediately obvious to "true" Christians. And there's no way that said "true" Christians could themselves be deceived by Satan, who by rights ought to have motives as often inscrutable as God's, because... ?

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playhavock wrote:
newnature wrote: Paul’s gospel must be accepted, it must be believed today,
No it does not have to be, as there is no good reasion you have to do so.
Here is a solid reason why one should pay attention to what Paul said. Paul revealed a secret that God had hid from the foundation of the world.

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newnature wrote:
playhavock wrote:
newnature wrote: Paul’s gospel must be accepted, it must be believed today,
No it does not have to be, as there is no good reasion you have to do so.
Here is a solid reason why one should pay attention to what Paul said. Paul revealed a secret that God had hid from the foundation of the world.
Is God concerned about getting as many of us into heaven as possible? If so, why is he always hiding these little secrets about that only the select few will ever know? Seems to me - if you were trying to steer as many people away from hell and into heaven as possible (or at the least leaving people with little excuse for unbelief) and truth was the vehicle by which you accomplished this - wouldn't you want that truth as evident as possible?

Also - it seems to me that your OP is more of a pulpit piece where as one would need to first believe along the same lines as you do, to even have anything to say about it.

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PhiloKGB wrote: It's awfully interesting that Satan, who by rights must be cleverer than the cleverest human, always acts in manners that are immediately obvious to "true" Christians. And there's no way that said "true" Christians could themselves be deceived by Satan, who by rights ought to have motives as often inscrutable as God's, because... ?
It is interesting that "true" Christians always refer to Satan; if they do not have any good arguments. Or as a justification these take advantage of "tradition". To quote Obelix: "These Christians get crazy".

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newnature wrote:
Here is a solid reason why one should pay attention to what Paul said. Paul revealed a secret that God had hid from the foundation of the world.
Paul had no idea. He was a stupid Roman Jew who wanted to have power. Christianity is not based by the way, not on Christ but on Paul. Any theologian who has studied the topic tells this to you.

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[quote="micatala"]
Although there is no specifically stated question for debate, we will leave the thread go under the assumption that the question can be inferred as something like "should Paul's gospel be accepted today?"
quote]

Interesting position. So what does Paul want to tell us today? Is his statement just as important today? Of course for fundamentalist Christians. But for "normal" Christians, for the unbelieving rest population?

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