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I don't have a link to the article in the latest issue of the journal Nature itself because I am not a member of their website, but the article was previewed by John Noble Wilford in The New York Times on October 12, 2005 and basically says that evolutionists are squabbling over whether the little people of Flores Island in Indonesia are really a new species of human, island-dwarfs or microcephalic individuals. The original discoverers of the human remains are now suggesting that "the little people may descend more directly from earlier members of the human family, like the australopithicines, the group the famous 3.2 million year old Lucy belonged to."

Does anyone have access to the NY Times or the journal Nature websites who can post a link to the story for us?

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Here's something from the BBC recently on it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4331252.stm

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Here's the BBC presenting the case for microcephaly and denying that the little people constitute a separate species from Homo sapiens.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4268122.stm

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yes I saw something about it on tv. Discovery or history channel. We don't know unless they can do dna, or find more data. The jury is out science kind of works like that sometimes. It wouldn't bother me one bit how it turned out. At one time a lot of different hominids lived side by side so the data seems to say. It would be interesting to find some still existing. It would make an uproar. At one time they would have collected them for circus sideshows. Today a tv show and ads.
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So that would be "The Little Life" :D

It usually takes a couple of years to publish findings, so we may be in a
holding pattern for a bit.

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Cathar1950 wrote:It wouldn't bother me one bit how it turned out. At one time a lot of different hominids lived side by side so the data seems to say. It would be interesting to find some still existing. It would make an uproar. At one time they would have collected them for circus sideshows. Today a tv show and ads.
Being classified in the Hominidae family by neo-Darwinists, Homo sapiens are also hominids, Cathar1950. Seems hominids still live side by side, and appear on tv, some of whom may end up in the human fossil record along with other species and genus in the great family tree of neo-Darwinist Hominidae.
Life is good. Only link I got is your.
Yes, life has always been good for the little people of Flores Island and Ireland. I'll keep my eyes out for a link to the original Nature story.

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Chimp wrote:So that would be "The Little Life" :D

It usually takes a couple of years to publish findings, so we may be in a
holding pattern for a bit.
These recent findings as published in Nature recently seem to show a genetic rift developing between neo-Darwinist species splitters and lumpers though. Indonesia, being predominantly a Muslim nation, I'm also wondering whether Indonesian evolutionists like Jacob, take personal offense to having any of their tribal ancestors compared to descendents of African ape ancestors instead of the children of Prophet Abraham.

http://www.islamdenouncesantisemitism.com/thesocial.htm

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I was pretty sure we were humanoids too. I am all for it.

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These were the people I mentioned with respect to evolution not always making things "bigger and better" in the BOC thread. I believe the effects of geographical isolation of species is known as Islandization -- a typical response being a scaling-down of proportions to match the abundance of available resources.

A BBC Horizon program was recently devoted to these finds. Somewhat reminiscent of the creationist claim that Neanderthals were humans with rickets and syphilis, one researcher suggested that the extraordinarily small brain volume of the first specimen found was due to disease. :roll:

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