I've noticed that many Christians say that "homosexuality is a choice". I partially agree. I think people can choose how they act on their urges and desires. But i don't believe that people can choose their urges and desires. For example, I am attracted to women. But i have no sexual attraction to men. I can't choose to change this about myself. But just because i am sexually attracted to women doesn't mean i have to act on those desires and attractions.
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1) Can you choose what gender you are attracted to?
2) Can you choose to act on your attraction?
3) Based on your answers to the above, is it accurate to say "homosexuality is a choice"?
Can you choose what gender you are attracted to?
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Post #1Religion remains the only mode of discourse that encourages grown men and women to pretend to know things they manifestly do not know.
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Post #2'Choose' or 'choice' is the wrong term. One's sexuality (sexual attraction to) is 'instinctive' or 'innate' and has nothing to do with with choice. One could equally ask, "Is heterosexuality a choice?" So, the answer is no.scourge99 wrote: I've noticed that many Christians say that "homosexuality is a choice". I partially agree. I think people can choose how they act on their urges and desires. But i don't believe that people can choose their urges and desires. For example, I am attracted to women. But i have no sexual attraction to men. I can't choose to change this about myself. But just because i am sexually attracted to women doesn't mean i have to act on those desires and attractions.
Questions for debate:
1) Can you choose what gender you are attracted to?
Yes, of course.scourge99 wrote:2) Can you choose to act on your attraction?
No, for the reason given in (1).scourge99 wrote:3) Based on your answers to the above, is it accurate to say "homosexuality is a choice"?
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Post #3Miss, miss, the kid stole my answers
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Post #4I DO deny it but I'll let you copy my answers for half of your chocolate bar . . .Joab wrote: Miss, miss, the kid stole my answers
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Post #5I would say no.scourge99 wrote: 1) Can you choose what gender you are attracted to?
This would be yes.2) Can you choose to act on your attraction?
Here's the problem. What do people mean by "homosexuality"? If it simply means what one is attracted to, then it's scenario 1 above. If it is homosexual behavior, then it's scenario 2 above.3) Based on your answers to the above, is it accurate to say "homosexuality is a choice"?
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Post #6Are you suggesting that homosexuality is entirely genetic in cause?KCKID wrote: One's sexuality (sexual attraction to) is 'instinctive' or 'innate' and has nothing to do with with choice.
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Post #7It is entirely prenatal in cause.
Unless you possess the capacity to change your sexual orientation?
When did you choose heterosexual attractions over homosexual attractions?
Do you still experience homosexual attractions?
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Post #8IS it? What studies, proof do you have of this?
Now, I'm not claiming it's not, but I would like to see your evidence that it is 'entirely prenatal.'
For instance, ancient Greece shows us that there can be a great deal of cultural influence involved in addition to any prenatal cause. Whether today's culture promotes it or not may be questioned, but that culture CAN influence this issue is fairly well established as 'you bet it can.'
Joab, this question is a prime example of the 'have you stopped beating your wife?" sort of comment. As it happens, homosexuality (and heterosexuality) are not binary sets. It's a range. MOST homosexuals are actually 'bisexual' to one degree or another; their primary attraction may be toward their own sex, but very few of them are totally indifferent to the opposite one. The same holds true of heterosexuals; though there are a lot more of us, certainly, and thus many more strict heterosexuals, the range is still there.Joab wrote:Unless you possess the capacity to change your sexual orientation?
When did you choose heterosexual attractions over homosexual attractions?
Do you still experience homosexual attractions?
I think that most people, including the most activist of Christian evangelists, would agree that it is what one chooses to do about one's attractions that matters, or, to refine things further, why one chooses to do what one does. Equating the attraction with what one does about it is unproductive...but it is a favorite ploy of gay rights activists--and the one you use with your inquiry as to whether those with whom you disagree experience homosexual attractions.
In sum, if one is celibate, one is celibate. It doesn't matter two hoots which flavor of temptation one is abstaining FROM.
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As long as nobody's getting hurt, I'm for the right of everyone to love who they love, and to sex up those willing to sex 'em up right back.
One can no more choose their attractions than I can choose to be intelligent.1) Can you choose what gender you are attracted to?
Yes.2) Can you choose to act on your attraction?
Don't care.3) Based on your answers to the above, is it accurate to say "homosexuality is a choice"?
As long as nobody's getting hurt, I'm for the right of everyone to love who they love, and to sex up those willing to sex 'em up right back.
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Post #10There is nobody that is disagreeing that nobody chooses their sexual attraction. What I'm asking is what does it mean to be instinctive or innate? Or do you all agree that it is not genetic in origin?
Who said anybody has chosen who they are attracted to?When did you choose heterosexual attractions over homosexual attractions?
As dianiad said, this is an irrelevant question.Do you still experience homosexual attractions?