The Atonement

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To all true Christians there is nothing more important to our salvation than "The Atonement of Jesus Christ".

Having said that, is it not therefore extremely important to every individual to understand fully what and how the atonement works for our benefit?

What does the atonement do or does not do?

What is required on our part to receive the full benefits of the atonement?

What and when and by whom did the atonement begin?

Can anyone clearly show all scriptures pertaining to the atonement?

I look forward to hearing your "take" on this most important topic.

Kind regards,
RW

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It makes all of them alive /unto God ! 2


You see, all who were in Adam, when he sinned died to God Rom 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

In God's way of doing things, when the one man adam sinned, all men in him had sinned, and the sentence of death was passed upon all men who sinned in Adam !

The words passed upon are the greek dierchomai and means:


I.to go through, pass through

A.to go, walk, journey, pass through a place


B.to travel the road which leads through a place, go, pass, travel through a region



II.to go different places

A.of people, to go abroad


B.of a report, to spread, go abroad


And the sense is : Death passed through to all men in that no one could escape its power ! Similar to what is said here Rom 5:17,21

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

God caused sin and death to reign suprememly as to no one escaped its power,

Causing all men to be dead to God, it was not a matter of mens choice, but God's Sovereignty !

But, on the other hand, the Good News is, all men who were in Christ when He obeyed, even unto death Phil 2:8; Rom 5:19, Grace , Righteousness and Life are made to reign causing them to be made alive unto God, now if this does not happen, it means that what consequences men suffered in adam, were of greater and superior consequences than what men receive that were in Christ ! That means death reigned superior over God's Grace through Righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord !

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Redeemed from the curse of the Law and how ?


Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, HOW ?being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

We need to understand something here from the jump, being redeemed is equivalent to being saved, being redeemed from the curse of the Law is Salvation, 100 % Salvation and ensures all the Blessings of Salvation !

Its the word exagorazō and means:


I.to redeem

A.by payment of a price to recover from the power of another, to ransom, buy off


B.metaph. of Christ freeing the elect from the dominion of the Mosaic Law at the price of his vicarious death



II.to buy up, to buy up for one's self, for one's use

A.to make wise and sacred use of every opportunity for doing good, so that zeal and well doing are as it were the purchase money by which we make the time our own

Redeemed from the power of the devil !

The end or purpose of this redemption is expressed in Gal 4:5

To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

This Adoption of Sons is receiving a nature that corresponds with and manifests those who have been redeemed as Sons. A nature is given that now combats the nature we have by nature in adam !

John Gill comments on Gal 4:5

that we might receive the adoption of children; by which may be meant, both the grace, blessing, and privilege of adoption, and the inheritance adopted to; both are received, and that in consequence of redemption by Christ; and such as receive the one will also receive the other. Adoption, as a blessing of grace, exists before it is received; nor does the reception of it add anything to the thing itself; it was in God's designation from all eternity, who predestinated his chosen ones unto it by Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will; it was provided, laid up, and secured for them in the everlasting covenant; and is part of that grace given them in Christ before the world began; but sin intervening, whereby the law was broken, obstacles were thrown in the way of God's elect receiving and enjoying this privilege in their own persons; wherefore Christ was sent to redeem them from sin and the law, and by so doing remove these obstructions, that so they might receive this privilege in a way consistent with the righteousness and holiness of God, as well as with his grace and goodness: receiving of it shows it to be a gift, a free grace gift, and not owing to any merit of the creature; faith is the hand which receives it, as it does all other blessings, as Christ himself, grace out of his fulness, righteousness, pardon, &c. and has no more causal influence on this than on any of these; faith does not make any the sons of God, or put them among the children; but receives the power, the authority, the privilege from God through Christ, under the witnessings of the spirit of adoption; whereby they become such, and have a right to the heavenly inheritance, which they shall hereafter enjoy.

Now again, Christ's death is saving in that it redeems all them He died for out of the curse of the Law ! That one fact is Salvation ! Look what David writes about some in regards to God's Law Ps 119:21

Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

All men by nature are proud and err from God's Commandments and so deserve the curse,

But those Christ died for are redeemed from the curse of the Law, they are saved from the curse of the Law which equates to Salvation. The word curse katara means:

I.an execration, imprecation, curse,

what has "to go down" (penalties received) due to condemnation, i.e. the penalty-curse that results when God Himself curses (condemns) something.

men worthy of execration, 2 Peter 2:14; abstract for the concrete, one in whom the curse is exhibited, i. e. undergoing the appointed penalty of cursing, Galatians 3:13; ἐγώ κατάρα

Being under the curse is very solemn thing ! But now how are they redeemed out of the curse of the Law ? Is it by their Faith ? Their Repentance ? 33

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Redeemed from the curse of the Law and how ?2


Being under the curse is very solemn thing ! But now how are they redeemed out of the curse of the Law ? Is it by their Faith ? Their Repentance ?

God forbid, it was not because of anything they did or did not do, But it was by this Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

You see that ? How are People Redeemed out of the Curse of the Law ? By Jesus Christ Himself, their Surety being made a Curse for them !

Thats it folks, thats all that had to be done, God has been satisfied with that, thats Salvation from all sin and its consequences, for as Paul wrote 1 Cor 15:56

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Hence, none for whom Christ died shall ever hear these words directed towards them Matt 25:41

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

The word cursed here is the exact same word as in Gal 3:13 except its in the verb form, whereas there its in the noun form !

So Matt 25:41 the cursed there cannot possible be any for whom Christ was made a curse for in Gal 3:13, because they whom He was made a curse for, have been redeemed out from the curse of the Law, and all sin , unrighteousness, unbelief, disobedience finds its strength of meaning as it is against the Law 1 Cor 15:56, So Matt 25:41 can only speak of those who never were redeemed from the curse of the Law, which they would have been if Christ died for them a curse as stated in Gal 3:13 !

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Christ's Death effects Faith/ Coming to God !


1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

This Faith Coming to God has always been by the Death of Christ, even before He died, thats just how beneficial His Meritorious Death was, that even it effected the Faith in God of the OT Saints 1 Pet 1:20-21

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Again Christ's Death causes Faith in God, a coming to God or bringing to God 1 Pet 3:18, and His Death alone !

Now here in the text, the one having suffered for sin, the Just for the unjust, that is His having been put to death in the flesh, it had a Divine Purpose, it was that [Hina Purpose] He might us [Believers/Elect 1 Pet 1:2] to God !

The word bring is the greek word prosago :


I.to lead, to bring

A.to open a way of access, for one to God

i.to render one acceptable to God



B.in a forensic sense, to summon (to trial or punishment)



II.to draw near to, approach

A.the land which a sailor is approaching seeming to approach him See Ps 65:4

The word prosaago is the same word in the Coming of Faith Heb 11:6

The word cometh here proserchomai means:


I.to come to, approach


II.draw near to


III.to assent to

That word assent indicates :

complying ,to act in agreement with or obedience to a wish, request, requirement, or rule , obey, acquiesce !

And so that type of Coming Faith, which Pleases God, is an effect, by-product of Christ having suffered and being put to death in the flesh ! Its another way of how He is the Author of our Faith, OT and NT Saints ! 34

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Made us dead to the Law !


Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

One of the things that lets us know that Christ's Death was limited to only a blessed portion of mankind instead of all of it without exception, is by its accomplishments, because we know that all do not partake of its accomplishments, but only some !

Paul writes here a most tremendous Truth concerning Believers only, saying to them, " Ye also are become dead to the law" !

The most important thing here is just how did this happen ? How did they become dead to the Law ? Was it by their Faith or Believing ? What about their Repentance , or Water Baptism ? God forbid, it wasn't because of anything they did, but it was solely by the Body of Christ, which simply means His Death !

Its crystal clear in the verse Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Remember when Peter writes 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

That Christ bore the belivers sins in His OWN BODY on the Tree, thats Pauls meaning when he writes :

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Thats how believers became dead to the Law, when Christ bare their sins [after being charged to Him] in His Own Body on the Tree.

Now if we are one of the Blessed Ones that Christ bare our sins on that Tree, as also stated here Isa 53:11-12

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Yes, if we are one of those blessed many, instantly and at once we became dead to the Law !

[Revelations won]

Dear Brightfame52,


Can you answer a simple question regarding the atonement?

My question, is simply what is required of us to have Christ's mighty atonement personally effective in our own life?

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[Replying to Revelations won in post #1116]

First explain to me post 1115 what I wrote, please dont just ignore it after I put work into it

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Made us dead to the Law ! 2


Now what does it mean to be dead to the Law ? Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Now understand, the Law, which is the strength of sin 1 Cor 15:56

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Sin is Transgression of the Law 1 Jn 3:4 ! It means that we have been put to death to the curse of the Law Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

We are dead to the curse of the Law, when Christ bare our sins [that were charged to him] in His Own Body on the Tree, He was then made a curse for us, redeeming us from the curse of the Law, so all for whom Christ died,are by that death alone dead to the curse of the Law, which in and of itself is an aspect of Salvation Ps 106:10

And he saved them from the hand of him that hated them, and redeemed them from the hand of the enemy.

Isa 63:9

For many unlearned men would make a difference in being saved and being redeemed, they are the same !, just stated differently !

None whom Christ died for shall ever hear these words directed towards them as some will Matt 25:41

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 34

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Made us dead to the Law ! 3


Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Now by the Body of Christ, that is to say , by His Death, we were made Dead to the Laws condemning power, which also means that, although we still sin daily in regards to God's Holy Moral Law, either by tongue, our thoughts or manifested actions out of the heart Matt 15:19 ,

Because by Christ's Death making us dead to the Law, none of those sins can be charged to us to condemn us before God,

Pauls words in Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Well that charge does include any charge or transgression against God's Law !

For instance, suppose one for whom Christ died/or a brother in Christ is guilty of what Jesus calls Adultery here Matt 5:28 and that word looking blepon means to gaze at, and its in the present tense, a continual state of gazing, lusting after her, at that time they are committing Adultery in their heart, a violation of the seventh commandment of the Moral Law of God See Ex 20:14, and before the eyes of a Holy God, this is worthy of death, even eternal death, the wrath of God Eph 5:6,

Yet this Transgression [see James 2:10-11] will not be and cannot be layed to their charge, God does not charge them with it because of whats stated in Rom 7:4 being dead to the Law by the Body of Christ ! 34

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Made us dead to the Law ! 4


Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Folks this is a profound Truth, but they for whom Christ died are dead to the Law, and so they are dead to the sevre consequences of having sinned against it, one such consequence is death; Recall back in 1 Cor 15:56 that the strength of sin is the Law :

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Death has its right to reign because its the result of sinning against the Law, so the Law gives sin its power , which sin gives death its power. Death is the consequence of sin Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Sin here was against God's Law or Command first by Adam's transgression from this Law/Command Gen 2:16-17

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

So sense we become dead to the Law by the Body of Christ, sin cannot be charged, and so death, all types of it, can no longer be a Lawful consequence, hence all for whom Christ died, as a matter of Divine Justice must be redeemed out of death, that does include but not limited to Spiritual Death. Paul says Christ has abolished death 2 Tim 1:10 !

Thats why its important for all whom Christ died to be made alive unto God, hence all for whom Christ died, to validate the Truth that He for them has abolished death and that by His Body they are dead to the Law, they must be made alive unto God or another way of saying it is that they must be born again Eph 2:5

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened[made alive] us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)

If all for whom Christ died are not made alive, its a miscarriage of Justice, and it means that Christ's death did not abolish death ! 34