Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:42 pm
historia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:12 pm
If Trump poses a unique threat to American democracy, as PREMISE 1 states, then any candidate who does not pose a threat to American democracy would be infinitely preferential to Trump, even if you disagree with every one of his or her social and economic policy prescriptions.
You keep referring to Trump as posing a "
unique" threat, as if only a unique threat is to be avoided.
More specifically, PREMISE 1 states Trump is a unique threat
to American democracy.
A threat to American democracy is an existential threat to the country that takes precedence over any policy proscriptions you or I happen to dislike.
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:42 pm
You also seem to lump DeSantis in with "
any candidate who does not pose a threat to American democracy".
Yes, I also asked you previously how DeSantis was a threat to American democracy, and you didn't answer the question.
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:42 pm
You said that you've seen the way he runs Florida, so if you don't think he poses a threat to American democracy, I guess that answers
my question. You
do seem to be telling me that you like his policies (by all means, correct me if I'm wrong).
So, DeSantis signing a strict immigration law passed by the Florida legislature is not a threat to American democracy. It may be an ill-advised policy economically, but ill-advised policies are not a threat to democracy.
Trump refusing to accept the outcome of a free and fair election, pressuring state officials to overturn the popular vote, pressuring federal officials to throw out electoral votes, fomenting a mob to attack the Capitol, and now continuing efforts to undermine the credibility of our electoral system are a threat to
American democracy itself.
This is why I'm pointing out that DeSantis' policy preferences are irrelevant to PREMISE 1. I like some of his policies and dislike others. I like some of Trump's policies and dislike others. I like some of Biden's policies and dislike others. Those policies and my preferences are all irrelevant to PREMISE 1.